Huh.

Copied from another board- I guess not everyone sees the debate the way Mf saw it.

CBS:

40% of uncommitted voters who watched the debate tonight thought Barack Obama was the winner. 22% thought John McCain won. 38% saw it as a draw.



frank luntz:

obama



dallas morning news:

This debate, with its emphasis on foreign policy, was supposed to be Mr. McCain's time to shine. But Mr. Obama matched him score for score, fending off any sort of game-changer.

Mr. McCain held his own, but that may not be sufficient on his home field.



dick morris on "hannity and combes":

"Unfortunately, I think Obama won this debate," said Dick Morris on Hannity and Colmes.



kansas city star:

Americans looking for a warrior in the White House surely warmed to GOP Senator John McCain’s scrappy debate performance Friday night.

But Democrat Barack Obama turned in the more statesmanlike effort. He was unflappable even under McCain’s often condescending attacks. While McCain went for punches, Obama scored points with sound arguments.



milwaukee journal sentinel:

The topic was foreign policy, with undercurrents of the financial crisis now consuming the attentions of the U.S. Congress. This main topic, woven as it is with national security, was one in which John McCain was thought to have an edge over Barack Obama. He made every attempt to paint the Illinois senator as naïve. He mostly failed.



miami herald:

McCain made the most notable misstatements and stumbled over the names of the leaders of Iran, Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, whose name he couldn't pronounce, and of Pakistan, referring to the latter as "Qadari" instead of Asif Ali Zardari.

McCain incorrectly asserted that former Gen. Pervez Musharraf rescued Pakistan from being a "failed state" when he seized power in a 1999 coup.



real clear politics:

CBS News: Obama won 39%, McCain won 25%, Draw 36%

Insider Advantage: Obama won 42%, McCain won 41%, Undecided: 17%

CNN: Obama "did better" 51%, McCain "did better" 38%

The idea that it was McSame's opportunity to kick some ass, and that he flubbed it, is the only idea that you can come away with after Friday night's performance...

He needed to knock it out of the park, and barely dribbled a grounder to the second baseman...

If he lost the debate, then he really lost, because he needed to really, reallly win it convincingly.

If he was equally effective as Obama, then he lost, because he really, really needed to win it convincingly.

Even if he won it by a bit, he still loses, because he really, really needed to win it convincingly.

Unfortunately for him, as I said above, only the baseless base even thinks he won at all...and even most of them realize that even if he did win, it wasn't by much.

It would take someone with their head about nine feet up their ass to think that he won convincingly...and they'd vote for McSame if he crapped in his hand and put it in his pocket on national TV, so no skin of Obama's nose.

Biden is going to rip Palin a new one in the VP debate, and whatever is left of the facade that she knows anything at all about pretty much anything will be ripped away.

Obama will destroy McSame on domestic issues and the economy.

McSame's only chance was to peddle the usual Republican fear campaign..."We're all going to die at the hands of Islamo-Fascists if you elect anyone but me!"...and then show some sort of reason why he's the only one who can save you...and he couldn't even get that idea out there well at all, much less convincingly.

Fish on...

Todd

We are all going to die at the hands of Islamo-fascists anyways, so what differnce does it make who gets elected? Even Ron Paul can't save us.

Boo!

Now you've done it...John's gloves are off now.


Mf

Sing along...

"Dumb, dumb, dumb...dumb, dumb Old Man."

I read it before I posted this...and I'll just say this:

Leave it to a damn Democrat to inject facts into the debate.

It's a lot more fun, granted, to just say stuff (even if it's patently false), and flash your dentures at the cameras.

The baseless base (i.e., you and others like you, bwp) eat that kind of stuff up, along with factless and illogical speeches by a VP candidate who barely knows which shoe goes on which foot, but can see Russia from somewhere in Alaska.

I repeat...this particular debate was the last chance that McSame had to show two things:

1. He's not George Bush regurgitated
2. He's got a foreign policy that far outstrips that of his much younger rival

...and he managed to do neither.

The next two debates will be a bloodbath for McLame, and the VP debate will look like a Saturday Night Live skit, which would be funny, were it not actually playing a part in the election of the LOTFW*.

Fish on...

Todd

*Leader of the Free World

He should have given him that face and then said one of the following:

1. I'd answer that question, but I think I'm passing a gall stone.

2. I knew I should have changed my Depends during the last commercial break...the remains of that Salisbury Steak I had for lunch is running down the inside of my thighs right now.

3. What's a Shiite?

4. I'm being owned by a black man.

Fish on...

Todd

Racist, your a Racist Todd.....

Oh wait that's what little Bitch Democrats scream... We're proud conservatives, and we don't have to hide behind color.....

McCain wins the election, so shall it be written so shall it be done!

Mf

If he really wanted to ingratiate himself to his baseless base, he should have said...

"Hey, look...I may not know what I'm talking about, I may be older than dirt, I may suffer mental deficiencies from being a POW for so long, none of which have ever been treated, I may be an adulterous cheating bastard, I may flip-flop more than a short order cook at IHOP, I may have chosen the most ignorant VP candidate to date, without spending more than five minutes vetting her...



















...but at least I'm not black."


McLame and Falin, 2008!

Fish on...

Todd

And Obama is a strutting little peacock, anticipating the time when he can make people bow down and kiss his robe... and most of you lefties would do it without hesitation, probably fighting to see who gets to kiss it first.
SWOON!!!!!
OBAMA/TODD '08

Why don't you enlighten us to exactly what it is Palin brings to the table? Tell us about all the "facts" and "policies" she's put forth so far?

Prove to us how "anti-pork" she is...how well her "abstinence only" education plan works in the actual world of reality, and how "seeing Russia from somewhere in Alaska" means she has foreign policy experience.

You have the floor...use it for something more useful than your last few posts...

Fish on...

Todd

Sounds like a little Bitch got his Labia hurt....again

Mf

Mmmmmmmmmmmm Labia

That's really all you've got, isn't it? A talking point from Limbarf and Shammity?

Come on, bwp...the floor is yours...tell us what's so great about Falin.

S-M-R-T

Holy $hit.

You really think she "uses too many words"...?

For real?

I don't think she even knows many words.

So far, all she's done is duck interviews (because she'll be exposed as a fraud), read a factless, and mostly dishonest speech written by Bush's speechwriters, and tell us that she doesn't even know what the Bush Doctrine is, and that Russia isn't that far from Alaska.

She's an absolute failure...and Biden will eat her well-used piece of ass for lunch.

Fish on...

Todd

Hey, KK...lighten up...after all, it's all Clinton's fault!

Nice.