I realize that facts in a political forum is akin to rain on a parade, but paying taxes in not socialism. The government using tax dollars to vest interest and control in a capital producing entity--a la the bush bail out plan--is a form of socialism.

Nope, that's not an example of socialism either, so according to a sub-category of Godwin's Law, you lose cool points.

Now we just need somebody to compare someone to a Nazi and we have Godwin's law in full effect!

cuz Robinhood beat him to it silly.

Pssst; Don't look now, but we've been doing exactly that since the 1930s. I can't think of an industialized nation that does not in one form or another. In fact, even Adam Smith said, "It is not very unreasonable that the rich should contribute to the public expense, not only in proportion to their revenue, but something more than in that proportion." (The Wealth of Nations)

Here's the dirty bassturd socialist claiming that the rich ought to pay more taxes in order to provide tax cuts for the middle class.

He got a pretty good ovation for it, but it was at a college campus and everyone knows those pesky educated folks tend to be "progressive" and "free thinkers", so you can't really expect them to understand the nuances of Republican econo-speak.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2JPbQOHEkY&fmt=6

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Todd

P.S. The "dirty bassturd socialist" saying this is not Barack Obama, it's the painfully hypocritical and aggressively flipflopping John McCain, proving he not only has no actual convictions, but that he's willing to say anything to pander to whichever voting block happens to be front of him at the time.

Hey, Hank...was it "socialism" or "Robinhoodism" when McCain advocated for EXACTLY the same thing that he is deriding right now?

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So effective that he's down by double-digits.

Effective at what?

Obama is absolutely whipping his ass in the "independent" vote, and with Palin stumbling all over herself, and McCain flipflopping like a short order cook at IHOP, by next week all that will be left on his side will be his base...which, if you didn't know, is far, far too small to win an election.

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True conservatives with CWP's should want first crack at 'em...

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Todd

Bible Spice.

The gap is getting large enough that even Diebold won't be able to deliver on this one.

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Todd

What's up with the AP poll putting them nearly even? An outlier?

I'm not sure how they got that...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27324419/

It says that among the voters they surveyed for the poll, Obama was up by ten points.

They might be referring to the split on uneducated whites...they are neck and neck on that one...but it's hard for me to suss out what they are getting at.

I've included a link to the poll above, which also notes that every other major poll shows anywhere from an 8 to 14 point lead for Obama.

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Todd

That would be redneck and redneck I believe Todd... ESPECIALLY if they're from western Pennsylvania.

I wouldn't call msnbc a truthful source !...I'm on the fence and I see clearly that msnbc is the Obama got to source and it is disturbing that the media and most of it is screaming for Obama!...I like to be a shepard not a sheep and I really don't like either one of them....No matter who i vote for neither one of them is really going to make my life any better...So I guess I got a couple of weeks to decide...I wonder how much hang time I can get on a good punt?...

If you want to test your punt hang time, vote for Ron Paul.

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Todd

He can whip some ass for sure! You can only admire someone who stands up to inner city gangs

What are Obama"s accomplishments? Well, for starters, he's got all of you conservatives sh!tt!ing down your legs.......... That's good enough for me!