#476870 - 01/02/09 07:53 PM
Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/richard-falk/understanding-the-gaza-ca_b_154777.htmlFor eighteen months the entire 1.5 million people of Gaza experienced a punishing blockade imposed by Israel, and a variety of traumatizing challenges to the normalcy of daily life. A flicker of hope emerged some six months ago when an Egyptian arranged truce produced an effective ceasefire that cut Israeli casualties to zero despite the cross-border periodic firing of homemade rockets that fell harmlessly on nearby Israeli territory, and undoubtedly caused anxiety in the border town of Sderot. During the ceasefire the Hamas leadership in Gaza repeatedly offered to extend the truce, even proposing a ten-year period and claimed a receptivity to a political solution based on acceptance of Israel's 1967 borders. Israel ignored these diplomatic initiatives, and failed to carry out its side of the ceasefire agreement that involved some easing of the blockade that had been restricting the entry to Gaza of food, medicine, and fuel to a trickle. Israel also refused exit permits to students with foreign fellowship awards and to Gazan journalists and respected NGO representatives. At the same time, it made it increasingly difficult for journalists to enter, and I was myself expelled from Israel a couple of weeks ago when I tried to enter to carry out my UN job of monitoring respect for human rights in occupied Palestine, that is, in the West Bank and East Jerusalem, as well as Gaza. Clearly, prior to the current crisis, Israel used its authority to prevent credible observers from giving accurate and truthful accounts of the dire humanitarian situation that had been already documented as producing severe declines in the physical condition and mental health of the Gazan population, especially noting malnutrition among children and the absence of treatment facilities for those suffering from a variety of diseases. The Israeli attacks were directed against a society already in grave condition after a blockade maintained during the prior 18 months. As always in relation to the underlying conflict, some facts bearing on this latest crisis are murky and contested, although the American public in particular gets 99% of its information filtered through an exceedingly pro-Israeli media lens. Hamas is blamed for the breakdown of the truce by its supposed unwillingness to renew it, and by the alleged increased incidence of rocket attacks. But the reality is more clouded. There was no substantial rocket fire from Gaza during the ceasefire until Israel launched an attack last November 4th directed at what it claimed were Palestinian militants in Gaza, killing several Palestinians. It was at this point that rocket fire from Gaza intensified. Also, it was Hamas that on numerous public occasions called for extending the truce, with its calls never acknowledged, much less acted upon, by Israeli officialdom. Beyond this, attributing all the rockets to Hamas is not convincing either. A variety of independent militia groups operate in Gaza, some such as the Fatah-backed al-Aqsa Martyrs' Brigade are anti-Hamas, and may even be sending rockets to provoke or justify Israeli retaliation. It is well confirmed that when US-supported Fatah controlled Gaza's governing structure it was unable to stop rocket attacks despite a concerted effort to do so. What this background suggests strongly is that Israel launched its devastating attacks, starting on December 27, not simply to stop the rockets or in retaliation, but also for a series of unacknowledged reasons. It was evident for several weeks prior to the Israeli attacks that the Israeli military and political leaders were preparing the public for large-scale military operations against the Hamas. The timing of the attacks seemed prompted by a series of considerations: most of all, the interest of political contenders, the Defense Minister Ehud Barak and the Foreign Minister Tzipi Livni, in demonstrating their toughness prior to national elections scheduled for February, but now possibly postponed until military operations cease. Such Israeli shows of force have been a feature of past Israeli election campaigns, and on this occasion especially, the current government was being successfully challenged by Israel's notoriously militarist politician, Benjamin Netanyahu, for its supposed failures to uphold security. Reinforcing these electoral motivations was the little concealed pressure from the Israeli military commanders to seize the opportunity in Gaza to erase the memories of their failure to destroy Hezbollah in the devastating Lebanon War of 2006 that both tarnished Israel's reputation as a military power and led to widespread international condemnation of Israel for the heavy bombardment of undefended Lebanese villages, disproportionate force, and extensive use of cluster bombs against heavily populated areas. Respected and conservative Israeli commentators go further. For instance, the prominent historian, Benny Morris writing in the New York Times a few days ago, relates the campaign in Gaza to a deeper set of forebodings in Israel that he compares to the dark mood of the public that preceded the 1967 War when Israelis felt deeply threatened by Arab mobilizations on their borders. Morris insists that despite Israeli prosperity of recent years, and relative security, several factors have led Israel to act boldly in Gaza: the perceived continuing refusal of the Arab world to accept the existence of Israel as an established reality; the inflammatory threats voiced by Mahmoud Ahmadinejad together with Iran's supposed push to acquire nuclear weapons, the fading memory of the Holocaust combined with growing sympathy in the West with the Palestinian plight, and the radicalization of political movements on Israel's borders in the form of Hezbollah and Hamas. In effect, Morris argues that Israel is trying via the crushing of Hamas in Gaza to send a wider message to the region that it will stop at nothing to uphold its claims of sovereignty and security. There are two conclusions that emerge: the people of Gaza are being severely victimized for reasons remote from the rockets and border security concerns, but seemingly to improve election prospects of current leaders now facing defeat, and to warn others in the region that Israel will use overwhelming force whenever its interests are at stake. That such a human catastrophe can happen with minimal outside interference also shows the weakness of international law and the United Nations, as well as the geopolitical priorities of the important players. The passive support of the United States government for whatever Israel does is again the critical factor, as it was in 2006 when it launched its aggressive war against Lebanon. What is less evident is that the main Arab neighbors, Egypt, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia, with their extreme hostility toward Hamas that is viewed as backed by Iran, their main regional rival, were also willing to stand aside while Gaza was being so brutally attacked, with some Arab diplomats even blaming the attacks on Palestinian disunity or on the refusal of Hamas to accept the leadership of Mamoud Abbas, President of the Palestinian Authority. The people of Gaza are victims of geopolitics at its inhumane worst: producing what Israel itself calls a 'total war' against an essentially defenseless society that lacks any defensive military capability whatsoever and is completely vulnerable to Israeli attacks mounted by F-16 bombers and Apache helicopters. What this also means is that the flagrant violation of international humanitarian law, as set forth in the Geneva Conventions, is quietly set aside while the carnage continues and the bodies pile up. It additionally means that the UN is once more revealed to be impotent when its main members deprive it of the political will to protect a people subject to unlawful uses of force on a large scale. Finally, this means that the public can shriek and march all over the world, but that the killing will go on as if nothing is happening. The picture being painted day by day in Gaza is one that begs for renewed commitment to international law and the authority of the UN Charter, starting here in the United States, especially with a new leadership that promised its citizens change, including a less militarist approach to diplomatic leadership.
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#476874 - 01/02/09 08:05 PM
Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe
[Re: John Lee Hookum]
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Waahhh
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#476876 - 01/02/09 08:08 PM
Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe
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River Nutrients
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Israel needs to kill them ALL....starting with Hamas!
Mf
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#476878 - 01/02/09 08:12 PM
Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe
[Re: Dogfish]
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"The periodic firing of homemade rockets that fell harmlessly". WTF, how about someone fire a few homemade rockets into your backyard? By The way they are not home made rockets. The rockets being used are increasingly more sophisticated and dangerous.
The Palestenians' problem is with their corrupt goverment and has been since Yasir Arafat. Until that changes, nothing will change for them.
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#476885 - 01/02/09 08:53 PM
Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe
[Re: Idaho Mike]
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Israel has been a target since 1948 and has been under constant attack ever since. 60+ years of war. I can understand their stance on not bending over backwards.
The sad thing is that neither side ever learns anything from these issues.
The stupid part is that anybody who pisses off Israel actually thinks they'll get away with it. They have a serious amount of firepower, and they are not afraid to use it. It isn't "an eye for an eye" with them, they just cut off the head.
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#476908 - 01/02/09 09:48 PM
Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe
[Re: Dogfish]
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River Nutrients
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Israel has been under constant attack since 1948 because Israel was created by Britain, with the help of the US, out of land occupied by Palestinians and Jews since time immemorial. Many Palestinians were forcibly displaced to Gaza and the West Bank to establish space for the politically created state of Israel.
Who among us, if we were Palestinian, wouldn't fight for freedom, self determination, and family property taken without compensation?
On the other hand, after 60 years Israel is a reality and isn't going away. The anti-Israeli Arabs that won't get over that might as well piss up a rope.
The mess in the land that is Israel and was Palestine has been at war for longer than anyone can remember. Britain and the US certainly contributed to the mess in the last 6 decades (and Britain for long before that).
Sometimes I'm of a mind that there will never be resolution, no reconciliation, and there is no solution. I don't know whey the US is so pro-Israel, since Israel is pretty clearly not a friend of the US, other than the US media is one-sidedly pro-Israel. Since the US armed Israel to the teeth, maybe we should arm the Palestinians equally well and train them. Then maybe the Palestinians and Israelis will do the world a favor and destroy each other. I realize this totally lacks any compassion or humanitarian aspect. But then Israel and the Palestinians are totally incompassionate and inhumane toward one another anyway. That part of the middle east is a huge financial drain on the rest of the world and keeps the region politically and socially unstable that the world might just be a better place without both of them. After decades of failed attempts at peace accords, is any other solution possible?
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#476910 - 01/02/09 09:53 PM
Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe
[Re: Salmo g.]
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Dude, where's my boat?
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Israel might be pounding on little Hamas but they got a rude awakening when they took on Hezbollah recently...as SG said this is a series of conflicts that will never. IMO this is just a warmup for a rematch with a much tougher, better equiped and trained enemy...pretty sad as the civilians bear the brunt of all these "wars" and no one really wins in the end.
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#476929 - 01/02/09 10:32 PM
Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe
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Israel might be pounding on little Hamas but they got a rude awakening when they took on Hezbollah recently... That's what Israel gets for letting Hezbollah fester like a big gigantic zit.....they should have popped them along time ago. Mf
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#476931 - 01/02/09 10:36 PM
Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe
[Re: summerrun]
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shiny thingy
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I think American support for Israel comes from not coming to the rescue of the Jews, during the holocaust sooner.
These religious fanatics over there purposely "lob" unguided missiles over the fence,hoping to kill women and children.Then they hide behind there own women and children daring you to fight back.Of course when you do it is a no win situation.Instead of killing the enemy you kill women and children.Ultimately you get a war that will never end.The Israelites have been fighting on that soil since before Christ.To own that soil is to spend thre rest of your time there fighting for it.
What scares me is the Russians.They are selling Iran increasingly more sophisticated weapons. It is only a matter of time before this technology is used to drop a nuclear weapon dab smack in the middle If Israel.We would be talking the Hollocoust in one day.
Our country and the world does not need that now or ever.
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#477062 - 01/03/09 04:05 PM
Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe
[Re: Dogfish]
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Parr
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#477063 - 01/03/09 04:23 PM
Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe
[Re: Vidiotic]
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Parr
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Besides....you don't mess with The Zohan!
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#477064 - 01/03/09 04:49 PM
Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe
[Re: Vidiotic]
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#477116 - 01/03/09 08:52 PM
Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe
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shiny thingy
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Just watched it the other night.Funny [censored]
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With the population ballooning out of control, there are bound to be more and more fishermen clogging up our rivers. All of these fishermen have one thing in common: They come to the Olympic Peninsula seeking solitude.” Pat Neal
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#477162 - 01/03/09 11:18 PM
Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe
[Re: Salmo g.]
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I just read the lead article on AOL news about this. Its a great read. The Palestinians are promising to kill, injure and implicit horrors that will result in severe mental illness. Later on it tells the plight of an innocent family that was bombed. They lost 2 family members and 6 more were injured. Of course, on family member did mention that the Isrealies had called and told them they had 15 minutes to leave. Wanna bet they are now holding up some dead or injured child and weeping about how horrible Isreal is. Ignoring of course the fact that they were warned and that the Israelies actually did hit their intended target. The whole article posted is a bunch of hogwash. I love how it condemns Israel for using "disproportionate force". I guess they feel that when they attach someone bigger and stronger then them the bigger man should tie one arm behind his back before fighting and make sure he hits himself once every time he hits the other guy. Plain ridiculous. Turn them to dust Israel......
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#477203 - 01/04/09 02:56 AM
Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe
[Re: Krijack]
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Parr
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Anyone wonder why Israel is so hated over there? Maybe because it's like having the Great Satan living in their back yard. I have spoken with many Israelis, and they are just like us...culture, economic structure, etc.. What self respecting raghead wants a little America within spitting distance? Woe be to the idiots who tweak the Israelis nose.... Israel is the preiminent military power in the Middle East, and as such provides a stability that our State Department can only dream of..... Keeping Iran off balance, along with Syria, goes a long long way to ensure our global interests are secure.
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#477204 - 01/04/09 03:07 AM
Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe
[Re: Vidiotic]
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Parr
Registered: 12/09/08
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Jeepers JLH, it doesn't look like anyone wants to drink the same Kool Aid as you did.....Too bad, so sad.
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#477256 - 01/04/09 03:59 PM
Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe
[Re: Vidiotic]
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River Nutrients
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What is the morally measurable offense here? The number of rockets used by any one side, or the number of human lives lost per side? Israel's ratio of people killed per rocket is much more efficient than Hamas; is that cause for celebration or condemnation?
I view the conflict with an ambiguous eye. Israel is no more defensible than Hamas' actions deplorable.
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#477304 - 01/04/09 07:10 PM
Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe
[Re: goharley]
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Three Time Spawner
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What a joke goharley. What kind of idiot would even hint that, after being shot at, you should count how many people were killed and then kill only the same amount; and that if you use a bigger gun or kill more, you are the agressor and immoral one. Sorry, Israel's approach has always been a hundred for one, and I approve. Would you suggest that a police officer should always wait to be shot at, then only shoot back the same amount of bullets. Making sure you don't actually hit the criminal unless you are hit. And if there are two, only arresting one.
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#477307 - 01/04/09 07:11 PM
Re: Understanding The Gaza Catastrophe
[Re: goharley]
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shiny thingy
Registered: 12/22/08
Posts: 134
Loc: hood canal
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Key word Vidiotic.....Interest.....
We have no friends in the middle east only interests.
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