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#642701 - 12/10/10 12:53 AM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: Magicfly]
Oregonian Offline
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Registered: 03/17/05
Posts: 1799
Originally Posted By: Magicfly
Originally Posted By: Todd
I like it when KK and AuntyM get all butthurt and accuse each other of being so mean and nasty...

Fish on...

Todd


Na, now if it was you & Marsha I'd take the time to read through. KK not worth my time. smile

Mf


High complement !

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#642730 - 12/10/10 01:17 AM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: ]
Piper
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Originally Posted By: Kanektok Kid

Just for once in your god-damned miserable useless oxygen thief life STFU.

You make zero sense, and haven't got the brains God promised anaerobic bacteria.


She may be a gasbag bitch but she's turning you into a Christian... you referered to God twice in one post... dissapointing

Just for the record Obama doesn't have enough power to grab his own gun...

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#642812 - 12/10/10 03:38 AM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: Todd]
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Registered: 10/31/02
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Loc: Olympia, Wa
Originally Posted By: Todd
It just ain't gonna happen...no matter much fear is schlepped around...if you haven't all noticed, fear sells, and sells well...and it only works if there's willing and fearful customers.

Be afraid...be very afraid...and by all means, put your money where your fear is.

You don't hear any anti-gun groups screaming victory...just all the gun groups peddling fear.

Fish on...

Todd

P.S. And I don't find it a coincidence that it goes full circle from the fear mongering liars at the NRA to fear to sales and right back to the NRA...fear is good for business, especially for the NRA.


True statements. Thankfully, there is ammo back on the shelves. From the time of the election for about a year or more, you couldn't find a box of shells for anything that wasn't pretty much obsolete or black powder. Firearms - you couldn't find anything in semi-auto, especially an AR on a shelf practically anywhere and if you did, the price was double of the norm.

Why? Fear. Fear Sells. And man, did it. Gun and ammo manufacturers had record sales for two years, so much so, that a particular gun dealer I allegedly may or may not have used in the past hired on so many people to ship everything out of their warehouses that they emptied the shelves and could no longer get inventory to restock them. Layoffs ensued and they nearly went bankrupt the following year due simply to fear.

As for me, I have no registered firearms, there is no law that compels me to register them. In fact, I may or may not have any firearms at all. I had one or two at one time, however they were lost in a fire onboard my canoe while transporting them to an undisclosed location.....
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#642856 - 12/10/10 11:23 AM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: ]
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IMO at a minimum registration will be necessary.
That way the Death Panels can dispatch the Gun Grabbers to make it safe for the Life Grabbers.
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#642888 - 12/10/10 12:47 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: ]
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I think KK and Aunty are having a steamy affair.

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#642912 - 12/10/10 02:03 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: Irie]
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Originally Posted By: Irie
I think KK and Aunty are having a steamy affair.


I can smell the fragrant candles, and hear the sweet whispers of love. Is that Barry White on the rock Ola in the back ground? Aweeee Baby....... wink
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#642923 - 12/10/10 02:40 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: FishPrince
Gun registration is not necessary. We don't have a gun problem in this county, we have a defective people problem in this country. Just like ITT.


Well there it is right there. Guns don't kill, I can wait a lifetime with a loaded gun on the table in front of me, it ain't going to do anything until SOMEONE pulls the trigger.

Guns kill people just like spoons made Rosy O'Donnell fat.
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#642926 - 12/10/10 02:43 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: ]
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Registered: 05/03/01
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Loc: McCleary, WA
Originally Posted By: FishPrince
Originally Posted By: Steve Ericsson
As for me, I have no registered firearms, there is no law that compels me to register them.


Not only that but there is not even a registry. Guns are not registered federally or in this state.


Actually, if you buy a pistol, there is a record kept. These will show up on a DOL report, or when WSP or other officers pull you over and run your license. Not supposed to be a database, but there most certainly is. This listing is also attached to your CPL electronically. If the states have them, you can most certainly bet that the FED.GOV folks have lists as well.

Been a deputy, and have many friends in the LEO community. This information is being kept to keep them safe. Don't have an issue with that either, but it would be disingenuous to state that there are no registries or lists of who bought what, and when.

I've never bought 35-40 guns in a month, except to sell them through my FFL, but I can only imagine the list of firearms that pops up from the ones legally transferred to me, before the tragic boating accident.
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#642930 - 12/10/10 02:55 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: Steve Ericsson]
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Originally Posted By: Steve Ericsson

Guns kill people just like spoons made Rosy O'Donnell fat.


Now that fuuny!! rofl
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#642935 - 12/10/10 03:05 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: Dogfish]
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Dogfish,

I was going to bring that up. I don't pay that close of attention the gun law topic, but an expert down the hall and around a couple corners once told me that the federal gov't. has kept of record - database - of all sales since the 1968 gun law. I didn't know if that included long guns and handgun. Looks like you're saying it is just handguns that are recorded. Is that correct?

Meanwhile I'm still offended that I can't take weapons on a plane.

Sg

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#642936 - 12/10/10 03:09 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: Salmo g.]
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[quote=Salmo g.
Meanwhile I'm still offended that I can't take weapons on a plane. Sg[/quote]

I am as well. We need to change that and Now!
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#642951 - 12/10/10 03:34 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: ]
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The state registry specifically lists pistols. All weapons are FED.GOV
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#642960 - 12/10/10 04:07 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: Dogfish]
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Like Dogfish stated the State of Washington records all pistol transfers/sales based on their form FIR-652-001. These forms are required by state law when the transfer is between a licensed dealer and a private individual. It doesn't apply to private party transactions or dealer to dealer transactions. The federal form 4473 applies to all firearms transfered between a dealer and private party.

Additionally, if a dealer sells more than one handgun to a private party the dealer is required to submit a "Report of multiple sale or other disposition of pistols and revolvers" to the ATF. Interstingly this only applies to pistols and revolvers not to frames or receivers, even if they are handgun receivers like a Thompson Contender.
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#642967 - 12/10/10 04:45 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: ]
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When a State Patrol officer pulls up your data on their computer during a traffic stop, they run your DL#. That triggers the fact that you have a CPL, and attached to that data and readily available to that officer in their car, is a list of pistols that you have purchased that were registered through the process described by RVW.

My private party purchases are not listed, but the one purchased through FFL's are listed, because I use my CPL to avoid any waiting period for hand guns.

A list, readily available to an officer by just keying in your DL#, is in effect, a registry of firearms purchased by an individual. Call it what you want, but I had no choice to avoid "said list" if I wanted a NIB pistol.

Apparently a BJ isn't sex, according to some. So please, enlighten me on just what the definitiion of the word "IS" is.

reg·is·try (rej&#8242;is tr&#275;)

noun pl. registries -·tries

registration
an office where registers are kept
an official record or list; register
a certificate showing the nationality of a merchant ship as recorded in an official register
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#642989 - 12/10/10 06:22 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: Dogfish]
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DF,

Thanks for the clarification. State list = handguns only. Fed list = all firearms.

FP,

I think what we have is political wordsmithing. Most Americans were opposed to a federal firearms registry, so instead the government has a "database" of firearms purchases. While I appreciate the difference, the database sure gives the gov't. a good idea of who might possess firearms.

Yeah, when ATF shows up at your door, try slamming it. The story you will have to tell will amuse us all.

Sg

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#642996 - 12/10/10 06:44 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: Salmo g.]
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#643052 - 12/10/10 09:22 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: ]
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Registered: 05/27/08
Posts: 652
Loc: Bellingham/Socialistic Idaho
Originally Posted By: Hankster
Now that we're settled on whether or not the gubmint knows about our guns, I think we can be reasonably certain nobody will come and get them. Guns, bacon and everything else we were worried about are safe at home.

The thing that concerns me is we're about two libtard appointments to SCOTUS away from it being more difficult to get more guns. Local ordinances could make registration fees cost prohibitive; ammo that have identifiers encoded will make that expensive. In short, they can make it tough on ya and a less gun-tolerant SCOTUS will go right along with that.

Just my 2cents


I caught 2 steelhead today. What did you do?

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#643053 - 12/10/10 09:29 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: ]
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Speaking of SCOTUS decisions.The more KayKay and his illegitimate butt child FishPrince post tends to give me pause to reflect upon the potential merits of abortion.
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#643056 - 12/10/10 09:33 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: McMahon]
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Originally Posted By: McMahon
I caught 2 steelhead today. What did you do?


I sold a phuckk load of guns today....caught a chit load of big dungies over the last few days and booked an appointment to buy a piece of land in AK.

Glad about your success with those 2 fish....
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#643087 - 12/10/10 10:10 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: McMahon]
Dogfish Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
Posts: 10979
Loc: McCleary, WA
Originally Posted By: McMahon
[quote=Hankster] I caught 2 steelhead today. What did you do?


I worked at the bank and signed 4 loans. Travelled to Centralia, picked up my son's bear hide that has been tanned, and now I'm drinking a spiked egg nog. I also got my fat cat banker bonus, first in 3 years. $2,700! (A mere pittance compared to what they usually have been)

Semantics, FP. .GOV maintains and compiles this list of gun owners.

I don't think they'll be knocking down my door any time soon either, as I am a law abiding citizen, but as we have seen in many states across the land, our .GOV folks have legislated firearms that were legal at one point in time to being unlawful to possess with the stroke of a pen. I don't trust the D's, nor the R's. They are all assholes and seldom do they do something for the public good, unless they or their friends can make a buck off of it.


Edited by Dogfish (12/10/10 10:12 PM)
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