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#587318 - 03/09/10 02:33 PM So what are your thoughts...
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#587324 - 03/09/10 02:43 PM Re: So what are your thoughts... [Re: Driftfishnw]
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I can't really comment on it, I've never been down to the Hoh reservation to see if it's all lowlands or not.....but I believe they deserve to live on the high ground.....kinda glad the verbiage in the transfer specifically doesn't not allow another casino......I wonder what uses are in store on both sides of SR 101?
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#587327 - 03/09/10 02:52 PM Re: So what are your thoughts... [Re: Driftfishnw]
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The tribe now is seeking 37 acres of national-park land, to be deeded into trust as part of its reservation, through an act of Congress.

While only a small piece of land, it is crucial to the Hoh because it would connect the tribe's existing parcels into a contiguous swath of usable land. The tribe has plans for a new future on that land, from building housing for its people, to creating a publicly accessible trail from Highway 101 to the beach.

The bill that would transfer the parkland to the tribe would prohibit logging or hunting on the parcel, today in second-growth forest and an important wildlife corridor. The tribe also would be prohibited from developing a casino on the property.


Looks fairly reasonable to me. 37 acres isn't much and I assume it would be helpful for them as a tribal community to be located on dry ground.

However this is the type of opportunity where I wish the Feds could negotiate fishing rights with an individual tribe. We will give you the land, exclusive guide rights below 101 and 30 days of netting surplused salmon if you revoke your fishing rights under Boldt and go 100% c&r of steelhead. (Just an example but you get the idea).

But this is Wa. so the politicians will just introduce whichever bill was handed to them by the Hoh tribe.
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#587330 - 03/09/10 02:56 PM Re: So what are your thoughts... [Re: Driftfishnw]
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As much as I dissagree with tribes most of the time, I would give them this, but I would like to see it be more of an eye for an eye.

Though, the piece of land they are referring to as "almost gone", is right at the mouth, where the abandoned home is (where they dump all the trash). So, it was just a matter of time before that piece would wash away.

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#587722 - 03/10/10 10:44 PM Re: So what are your thoughts... [Re: ]
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The measuring stick is simple......what would happen if YOU lived there?
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#587733 - 03/10/10 11:02 PM Re: So what are your thoughts... [Re: ParaLeaks]
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I wouldn't give'em chit.

They can phuckin' buy it (at 100,000 it's reasonable market value) now that they've figured out the system. Phuckem and the casino and U&A smoke screen they hide behind.

I want that 37 acres.............
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#587743 - 03/10/10 11:16 PM Re: So what are your thoughts... [Re: RowVsWade]
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i knew i should'nt have read the comments. typical seattleites.

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#587744 - 03/10/10 11:29 PM Re: So what are your thoughts... [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: FishPrince


In fact, maybe we should just tell them too bad and make them live in modern times subject to the state's jurisdiction like everyone else once their land washes away.


100% agreed
this is 2010, not 1865
if i had my druthers though
it would be the quinault's washing out instead
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#587747 - 03/10/10 11:34 PM Re: So what are your thoughts... [Re: Chum Man]
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Originally Posted By: Chum Man
i knew i should'nt have read the comments. typical seattleites.


What comments? What seattleites (sic)?
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#587762 - 03/11/10 12:44 AM Re: So what are your thoughts... [Re: RowVsWade]
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comments on the article. mostly stereotypical "natives are the stewards of the land and we should make them feel better for doing them wrong 150 years ago" with the odd dumb hick saying that we need to go to war and finish the job.

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#587972 - 03/11/10 07:22 PM Re: So what are your thoughts... [Re: ]
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OK fine, but we get to fish all the way down to the mouth and the park line on the queets would be the clearwater bridge and not 1/4 mile up stream.+ 1,000 on no logging or casino building.Good luck,
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