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#601081 - 05/21/10 04:09 AM Steelhead Rod Comparisons
miked Offline
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Looking for a steelhead rod and am soliciting your advice. Looking for a medium to medium heavy type casting rod. This rod will be used for repetitive casting. Line weight would be in the 8-17 pound range. Plug weight would be in the 3/8-1 ounce range, maybe a little more. Rod length will be 8.5-9 feet. Sensitivity, rod weight, and rod strength are of equal importance. Price range of $350 or less. Of the Loomis', St. Crois', Lamiglass', Okumas' and others, what are your recommendations?
Truth be told, I will not be fishing for steelheads but will be using the rod on the Gulf Coast for redfish(red drum) in tournament settings. These tournaments often require a rod that will allow a long cast and yet offer good sensitivity. Your suggestions are appreicated. Thanks.

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#601098 - 05/21/10 10:49 AM Re: Steelhead Rod Comparisons [Re: miked]
Chum Man Offline
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Registered: 11/07/99
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Loc: Yelmish
lamiglas' X86MTC is a good start.

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#601103 - 05/21/10 11:21 AM Re: Steelhead Rod Comparisons [Re: Chum Man]
Beezer Offline
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Registered: 06/09/99
Posts: 838
Loc: Monroe WA
Rainshadow:

IST1085F Matte Clear 9'0" 2 10-17 lb. 3/8-1 oz. 0.520 5.5 Moderate Fast 3.31 oz. $96.73

Custom built to your specs and colors for another $125 +/- by Greg's Custom Rods in Lake Stevens, WA.

Good luck.
Beezer


Edited by Beezer (05/21/10 11:24 AM)

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#601105 - 05/21/10 11:46 AM Re: Steelhead Rod Comparisons [Re: miked]
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Registered: 03/03/09
Posts: 4681
Loc: Somewhere on the planet,I hope
Rainshadow XST 1085f I is a 9ft, 2 pc, 10 to 17. Very sensitive but holds up. If you know someone to build it Utmost Ent will give you a 25% discount on the blank and 5% on the rest of the parts.

You can get the blank, Alps guides TIC and textured exposed blank reel seat & grip for about $189 with tax & shipping. If you go high end grip add about $30. Built 5 of them now and everyone seems to love them.


Edited by Rivrguy (05/21/10 11:55 AM)
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#601111 - 05/21/10 12:23 PM Re: Steelhead Rod Comparisons [Re: Rivrguy]
STRIKE ZONE Offline
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Registered: 08/09/00
Posts: 11969
Loc: Hobart,Wa U.S.A
1025GL3.Good luck,
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#601115 - 05/21/10 12:28 PM Re: Steelhead Rod Comparisons [Re: STRIKE ZONE]
Nor Cal Drifter Offline
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Loomis STR 1025c. Hands down the best rod that fits the specs you listed. IMX if you want the best in sensitivity, GL3 if you want a little more strength/durability and still very sensitive.
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#601129 - 05/21/10 01:03 PM Re: Steelhead Rod Comparisons [Re: Nor Cal Drifter]
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What is the size range of your Redfish? Never fished for them so I have no clue, but I have seen some good sized specimens on fishing shows.


For ripping larger plugs like the 1 oz. size you mentioned I like a extra-fast action rod.

Personally I would look @ the Lamiglass X-89 MCT, light tip to let the lure work & plenty of muscle in the butt section to wrassle em out of the nasty stuff. Lamiglas calls it their "Magnum Taper" it works.


Put a Abu Toro 50 on top & its hammer time...... 2cents




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#601140 - 05/21/10 01:37 PM Re: Steelhead Rod Comparisons [Re: chrome/22]
Batson Offline
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Registered: 05/21/07
Posts: 173
Loc: Sequim
Have one custom built the saltwater will kill the factory built rods. I recommend at least SS316 Stainless like Alps guides with either black plating or TC vapor deposition coating. I would go with either the 1085 or HS1021 This would be a suitable salt set up.

XST1085F
Rainshadow XST Salmon Steelhead

Component Part Number Part Description
Rod Blank Model # XST1085F-TC 9' 2pc Med/Heavy 10-17lb Salmon/Steelhead - Titanium Chrome
Butt Cap: HDCCBC20 Hard Density Cork Composite Butt Cap
Reel Seat Body: GTBTG16C-11.5 Graphite Trigger textured Blank Exposed w/cush R/S
Reel Seat Hood: GTT16C-SN-TC Hood w/cush Single Nut - True Light TiCH
Trim Ring: TRS16-TC Trim Ring for Seat size 16 TiCH
Fore Grip: HEFG2.5S-.250 2.5" High End Foregrip Super Grade ID .250"
Rear Grip: HERG14.0S-375 14.0" High End Reargrip Super Grade ID .375"
Winding Check: AWC425 Aluminum Winding Check .425" I.D. - Shiney Gunsmoke
Hookeeper: TCHKS Small TiCH Hook Keeper
Tip Top XTCPPCT06R05.5 ALPS SS316 - RRD-P Top 06 TiCH Ring 5.5 Tube - TICH w/o Chrome
Guides (see below for size and quantity) XPTCFCG ALPS SS316 - TiCH w/o Chrome Single Foot with TiCH Zirconium Ring RRD
Guides (see below for size and quantity) XTCLXNCG ALPS SS316 - LXN Guide w/TiCH Ring -TiCH w/o chrome

Guide order from the tip top Guide Guide Placement - In inches from the tip top
1st XPTCFCG06 3.75"
2nd XPTCFCG06 7.75"
3rd XPTCFCG06 12.25"
4th XPTCFCG06 17.25"
5th XPTCFCG07 23.5"
6th XTCLXNCG08 31"
7th XTCLXNCG08 39"
8th XTCLXNCG10 48"
9th XTCLXNCG10 58.5"
10th XTCLXNCG12 70.5"
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#601184 - 05/21/10 04:31 PM Re: Steelhead Rod Comparisons [Re: Batson]
Phil Maraude Offline
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lami xmg for sure.


Edited by Phil Maraude (05/21/10 04:31 PM)
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#601188 - 05/21/10 04:52 PM Re: Steelhead Rod Comparisons [Re: Phil Maraude]
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Registered: 05/22/06
Posts: 115
Loc: Issaquah WA
For pure function for the price, I really like the St. Croix Avid series. But, I have tried their Legend Elite and they are exceptional. Bit out of my price range, but would buy those if I could.
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#601203 - 05/21/10 05:48 PM Re: Steelhead Rod Comparisons [Re: Phil Maraude]
Bantam Offline
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Registered: 03/17/07
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Originally Posted By: Phil Maraude
lami xmg for sure.


+1 on the xmg
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#601231 - 05/21/10 08:32 PM Re: Steelhead Rod Comparisons [Re: Bantam]
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ditto on Karry's suggestion.
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#601240 - 05/21/10 09:48 PM Re: Steelhead Rod Comparisons [Re: Brewer]
Fast and Furious Offline
River Nutrients

Registered: 12/30/07
Posts: 3116
Redfish can reach 60 pounds.

I would not buy a light weight rod. A long cast is function of loading the rod along with bait weight and mainline and reel characteristics. 8.5 is not going to give you as much leverage or casting distance as 10 foot rod. If the other guys are using 7 foot bass rods, then 8.5 will be an improvement.



Edited by Lead Bouncer (05/21/10 09:49 PM)

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#601241 - 05/21/10 09:48 PM Re: Steelhead Rod Comparisons [Re: Brewer]
What Offline
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Posts: 848
K.B.'s recommendation +2...
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#601248 - 05/21/10 10:16 PM Re: Steelhead Rod Comparisons [Re: What]
bushbear Offline
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Registered: 08/26/02
Posts: 4681
Loc: Sequim
+3 on Karry's recommendation. I have a couple of Rainshadow rods. You can't go wrong with them.

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#601252 - 05/21/10 10:49 PM Re: Steelhead Rod Comparisons [Re: bushbear]
N W Panhandler Offline
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Registered: 01/05/07
Posts: 1551
Loc: Bremerton, Wa.
Make that +4 on Karrys suggestion;........great rods for sure
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#601273 - 05/21/10 11:40 PM Re: Steelhead Rod Comparisons [Re: N W Panhandler]
fishbadger Offline
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Registered: 03/06/01
Posts: 1200
Loc: Gig Harbor, WA
Redfish get to 60 lbs? Jeezus,

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#601408 - 05/22/10 11:22 PM Re: Steelhead Rod Comparisons [Re: miked]
Doctor Rick Offline
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Registered: 01/06/10
Posts: 1544
Loc: Sequim
Originally Posted By: miked
Looking for a steelhead rod and am soliciting your advice. Looking for a medium to medium heavy type casting rod. This rod will be used for repetitive casting. Line weight would be in the 8-17 pound range. Plug weight would be in the 3/8-1 ounce range, maybe a little more. Rod length will be 8.5-9 feet. Sensitivity, rod weight, and rod strength are of equal importance. Price range of $350 or less. Of the Loomis', St. Crois', Lamiglass', Okumas' and others, what are your recommendations?
Truth be told, I will not be fishing for steelheads but will be using the rod on the Gulf Coast for redfish(red drum) in tournament settings. These tournaments often require a rod that will allow a long cast and yet offer good sensitivity. Your suggestions are appreicated. Thanks.


Guys, he needs a medium to heavy power with a light to medium tip. 6 to 20 # dependent on whee he is. I love reds!
Dude, I love redfish! For a first rod find something in a 8 to 15 # range. Look at Berkley rods in a 8 -9 foot range. You should get a spinning version for having a wide range of options. There are more specialized rods, but a good Berkley will be a good start. I have many rods, from Loomis through Lami, through Raven, and Berkley, but I would start w the Berkeley give what you list as boundaries.

And loosen the drag and rinse the whole set up after every trip out, rinse off the salt water, these rigs are not salt water ready.

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#601409 - 05/22/10 11:25 PM Re: Steelhead Rod Comparisons [Re: Batson]
Doctor Rick Offline
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Registered: 01/06/10
Posts: 1544
Loc: Sequim
Batson,

Do you have some kits 7,8 # for a switch rod?

thanks please pm

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#601410 - 05/22/10 11:30 PM Re: Steelhead Rod Comparisons [Re: Batson]
Doctor Rick Offline
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Registered: 01/06/10
Posts: 1544
Loc: Sequim
Originally Posted By: Batson
Have one custom built the saltwater will kill the factory built rods. I recommend at least SS316 Stainless like Alps guides with either black plating or TC vapor deposition coating. I would go with either the 1085 or HS1021 This would be a suitable salt set up.

XST1085F
Rainshadow XST Salmon Steelhead

Component Part Number Part Description
Rod Blank Model # XST1085F-TC 9' 2pc Med/Heavy 10-17lb Salmon/Steelhead - Titanium Chrome
Butt Cap: HDCCBC20 Hard Density Cork Composite Butt Cap
Reel Seat Body: GTBTG16C-11.5 Graphite Trigger textured Blank Exposed w/cush R/S
Reel Seat Hood: GTT16C-SN-TC Hood w/cush Single Nut - True Light TiCH
Trim Ring: TRS16-TC Trim Ring for Seat size 16 TiCH
Fore Grip: HEFG2.5S-.250 2.5" High End Foregrip Super Grade ID .250"
Rear Grip: HERG14.0S-375 14.0" High End Reargrip Super Grade ID .375"
Winding Check: AWC425 Aluminum Winding Check .425" I.D. - Shiney Gunsmoke
Hookeeper: TCHKS Small TiCH Hook Keeper
Tip Top XTCPPCT06R05.5 ALPS SS316 - RRD-P Top 06 TiCH Ring 5.5 Tube - TICH w/o Chrome
Guides (see below for size and quantity) XPTCFCG ALPS SS316 - TiCH w/o Chrome Single Foot with TiCH Zirconium Ring RRD
Guides (see below for size and quantity) XTCLXNCG ALPS SS316 - LXN Guide w/TiCH Ring -TiCH w/o chrome

Guide order from the tip top Guide Guide Placement - In inches from the tip top
1st XPTCFCG06 3.75"
2nd XPTCFCG06 7.75"
3rd XPTCFCG06 12.25"
4th XPTCFCG06 17.25"
5th XPTCFCG07 23.5"
6th XTCLXNCG08 31"
7th XTCLXNCG08 39"
8th XTCLXNCG10 48"
9th XTCLXNCG10 58.5"
10th XTCLXNCG12 70.5"


Yes. Good set up for a build it.

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