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#601325 - 05/22/10 01:05 PM Okuma sst rod question
old nate Offline
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Has anyone out there fished the model 1062m ? It has a line rating of 8- 17 lb. medium action, which is what im looking for, but just from handling in the store it seems pretty wispy, although to really tell I know it must be fished. Thanks.

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#601332 - 05/22/10 02:03 PM Re: Okuma sst rod question [Re: old nate]
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I've got a set of them I bought for fall kingers...a little on the light side IMO, but I've used them float fishing coho, worked great...but I like my 10'6 spinning 6-12lb for steelies & cojo's.
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#601359 - 05/22/10 05:36 PM Re: Okuma sst rod question [Re: Moravec]
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Ask to see the back room return bin before purchasing...
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#601369 - 05/22/10 07:40 PM Re: Okuma sst rod question [Re: What]
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I bought one of the little ones for kokanee fishing and had it snap in half on me popping it out of a scotty ultralight DR clip after a month of ownership. Overall like the action, but quality is crap.
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#601387 - 05/22/10 09:30 PM Re: Okuma sst rod question [Re: GodLovesUgly]
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I've run my 10'6 float rods all through pink/coho/steelhead season...no issues for myself. Mpizzle, take it back to where you bought it...I'd be surprised if they didn't replace it over the counter, no questions asked.
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#601432 - 05/23/10 12:09 AM Re: Okuma sst rod question [Re: Moravec]
old nate Offline
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moravec; do you have both the (ml 6-12lb) and the (m 8-17lb) ? In your opinion does the 8-17 have enough power for a large steelhead?

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#601458 - 05/23/10 11:07 AM Re: Okuma sst rod question [Re: What]
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ouch! I have the 8-17 10'6" that was mentioned. Have landed around 25 steely's this last winter on it with no issues. largest fish was about 17 lbs. What Rvfshr said was not the first time I have heard that. I'm keeping my reciept....
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#601467 - 05/23/10 11:29 AM Re: Okuma sst rod question [Re: big moby]
old nate Offline
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From what ive heard the breakage issues have been very hit and miss ? My other concern is that , as stated before, when holding the rod and flexing it , it does not seem to have the action (backbone) that I associate for a rod with a line rating of 8-17 lb . If I hook a nate I want to be able to get it in, in a timely manner.

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#601488 - 05/23/10 01:10 PM Re: Okuma sst rod question [Re: old nate]
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the sst's have a very think graphite wall....

just think, when they first came out there were over the counter life time warrentie...then after the first year they were out they switched to a one year warrentie. wonder why?

anyway i have owned 6 different models, and have tried my hardest to break these rods on fish. all of them have performed very well, their actions are nice and feel great.

the only reason i got rid of all mine was due to the ugly color and chrome guides....i hate chrome guides.

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#601496 - 05/23/10 01:31 PM Re: Okuma sst rod question [Re: old nate]
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Originally Posted By: old nate
moravec; do you have both the (ml 6-12lb) and the (m 8-17lb) ? In your opinion does the 8-17 have enough power for a large steelhead?

I'd say so. It'll handle a 20#er but I bought em cause I was in the market for a spinning float rod I could use for fall chinook...little lite for that.
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#601516 - 05/23/10 03:52 PM Re: Okuma sst rod question [Re: Moravec]
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In all honesty I believe the 10'6" model feels great and has some nice amenities for the price. It is basically the thin wall construction (which drifter101 cited), that represents trouble. It would aid in preventing breakage issues if there were a few more guides added to rods costing $150 and under, making for a more progressive flex/curve when loaded, and less lengthy flat spots. Consequently when rods are of the thin walled variety the added weight of extra guides and mini flat spots created by further thread wraps dampen/slow actions to where they loose sensitivity, signifigantly.

The primary issues with inexpensive rods are all inclusive to associated "cost effective production" in overseas facilities. When you factor in the base cost associated with mass produced rods, it is not a big deal for the manufacturer to warranty them, even multiple times. As a result nothing will change in their basic lay up.

Not saying that by spending $200-$600 on a Sage, Loomis, Lamiglas, St. Croix or other premium brand would prevent breakage altogether, just add more peace of mind when a big fish is on line...

I conducted some experiments a couple years back in purchasing multiple foam handled crappie rods in 8' to 12' lengths/$20 - $30 price range, at the same time building a Forecast 1143 for under $50. The longest 12' Pflueger paired with a (childs), $19 Zebco underspin and stock/loaded 10# line yarded chums without issue. The other two shorter Shakespeares folded in multiple spots humpy fishing last year, each on the first fish.
The Forecast lasted an entire Summer/early Fall season, landing many steelhead, kings and silvers without fail, until the tip was broken off hiking through the woods.

Conclusion was that some low cost rods will handle heavy use and abuse, while others fail on their first outing... and by spending just $20 extra a full trouble free season can be achieved with an "effective fishing tool", versus an "ineffective folder".

What does all this have to do with SST's? Nothing, as I've never even fished one... just had too much coffee this morning and had to release some mental energy!
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#601524 - 05/23/10 05:39 PM Re: Okuma sst rod question [Re: What]
old nate Offline
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rvrfshr, I think I can relate to what you are saying, so I will probably go ahead and buy one.

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#601563 - 05/23/10 10:50 PM Re: Okuma sst rod question [Re: Moravec]
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Originally Posted By: moravec
Mpizzle, take it back to where you bought it...I'd be surprised if they didn't replace it over the counter, no questions asked.


Yah, I got it at John's and he replaced it for more no questions asked. Just used the new one in the Kokanee derby this weekend and caught around 10 fish on it with no issue. Just letting the original poster know I had one fail from the factory.

As I said, I like the action and have enjoyed the rod, I just had that last one bust under normal circumstances which was lame.
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#601579 - 05/24/10 12:31 AM Re: Okuma sst rod question [Re: GodLovesUgly]
old nate Offline
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Actually Ive been using a 10 1/2 foot Shakespeare Intrepid for over 10 years for a float rod and it has seen alot of use and abuse without missing a beat, but it is on the light side with a line rating of 6-10 lb, so I thought I would try cheap again in a heavier rated rod , I just dont want to buy a rod that is identical (light) action as the 6-10 lb as I already have. If it truly has the action of an 8-17 lb rod I will give it a go , cause as stated earlier it felt pretty flexy in hand .

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#602058 - 05/26/10 06:12 PM Re: Okuma sst rod question [Re: old nate]
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So I checked out the SST's again today while at Wholesale Sports... Get the 10#-20# model instead of the 8#-17#, as the 10#-20# feels like an 8#-17# should.

Good luck.
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#602061 - 05/26/10 06:44 PM Re: Okuma sst rod question [Re: What]
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Old Nate,

I'm a sometimes fan of cheap or inexpensive equipment, and I bought a couple Okuma salmon rods a few years ago. My report is that some cheap gear has served me better than others. One of the rods has been fine so far. The other has had issues: 1. the reel seat came loose from the blank, but since I have built a lot of rods, I was able to fix it satisfactorily; 2. the handle cork grip is kinda' fake. What looks like cork rings really aren't. They are a surface cover and are beginning to come off, revealing the "under" handle, but I haven't yet figured out what it is.

Cork is a significant cost in rod building these days, so I'm thinking about building up such rods in the future from blanks. Not as cheap as the cheap imports by any means, but less expensive than other alternatives.

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#602241 - 05/27/10 01:29 PM Re: Okuma sst rod question [Re: Salmo g.]
old nate Offline
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Registered: 03/23/03
Posts: 143
rvrfshr, I did not see a 10#-20# at OE and checked the Okuma website and they do not show one in the SST models ?

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#602442 - 05/28/10 11:28 AM Re: Okuma sst rod question [Re: old nate]
old nate Offline
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O.k., I see the 10-20 lb rod in the casting model, but im looking at the spinning rod. I might just end up buying a FE2. which I know has some power and holds up well.

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#602965 - 05/31/10 04:38 PM Re: Okuma sst rod question [Re: old nate]
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My bad old nate, thought you were looking at casting rods...
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