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#493474 - 03/05/09 11:53 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: JoJo]
goharley Offline
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Gotta get rid of lobbyists first, or term limits on Congress will be a disaster.
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#493561 - 03/06/09 12:38 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: Dogfish]
Todd Offline
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Originally Posted By: Dogfish
So are you inferring that it was put in place to allow citizens to protect themselves from the tyranny of government?


In my opinion the 2nd Amendment is there for the States to protect themselves from the tyranny of the Federal Government...back when we were a Federal republic, not the hodgepodge of states we are now.

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#493571 - 03/06/09 01:01 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: Todd]
Dogfish Offline
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Registered: 05/03/01
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Loc: McCleary, WA
So freedom of speech has no meaning?

How about unreasonable search & seizure?

Right to a speedy trial?

Trial by Jury?

Cruel & unusual punishment?

Race no bar to vote?

Women's sufrage?

This isn't a cafeteria plan, or religion. You either take it all as is, or change it through the prescibed method.

To say the nation has changed as a reason to make laws that gut the meaning of the 2nd amendment is BS. Arms include the firearm, ammunition, and magzines needed to operate them. What types of firearms would a tyrannical government have? And you would propose citizens citizens to fight said government with what? Give them the guns, but keep the bullets and magazines away from them?

Doesn't work for me.
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#493573 - 03/06/09 01:05 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: Dogfish]
Todd Offline
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You're reading too much into my comments, and not surprisingly my opinion is almost exactly what you put in your last post.

If it was really about rights, then the gun nuts would go apeshit over all the other trampling that took place over the past eight years, too...instead they say "hey, if you're not a terrorist, then you have nothing to worry about...get over it!!"...and then scream bloody murder when someone mentions guns.

For most of them, in spite of what they say, it's not about rights, it's about guns...and that's how you tell the gun nuts from those who want to protect our rights.

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#493574 - 03/06/09 01:09 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: Dogfish]
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Dogfish,
How dare you question the guberment. They are protecting you from yourself. Dont you know that. They know what is best for you and your children.
The Const was ment to be amended you know. A living docum I say. Now get behind the shepherd we almost to the slaughter house. Just kidding guys you can calm down. grin
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#493594 - 03/06/09 01:54 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: Todd]
willametteriveroutlaw Offline
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Registered: 10/26/02
Posts: 908
Loc: Idaho
Originally Posted By: Todd
You're reading too much into my comments, and not surprisingly my opinion is almost exactly what you put in your last post.

If it was really about rights, then the gun nuts would go apeshit over all the other trampling that took place over the past eight years, too...instead they say "hey, if you're not a terrorist, then you have nothing to worry about...get over it!!"...and then scream bloody murder when someone mentions guns.

For most of them, in spite of what they say, it's not about rights, it's about guns...and that's how you tell the gun nuts from those who want to protect our rights.

Fish on...

Todd


Todd,
But that being said in the only places those freedoms were infringed upon for the most part were terrorists. Individual rights are infringed upon by both parties on a regualar basis. By what time definition is a speedy trial? Some offenders will sit months and years before they recieve trial because of legal pandering. While you just want to blame boy wonder, the fact is that many of these rights that were infringed upon were approved by in congress and the senate by democrats as well.
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#493599 - 03/06/09 02:04 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
Todd Offline
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You'll note I didn't even mention our idiotic past Prez...and I didn't mention any particular party, either.

I hope you're kidding when you say that "terrorists infringed our freedoms"...that was the good ol' US of A that infringed our freedoms, and I'll go on to say that if the Government tells us the bullchit story that "they hate our freedom!", and then goes on to infringe our freedom in the name of fighting "they", then "they" have won.

Either way, we're the real losers.

Fish on...

Todd
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#493600 - 03/06/09 02:05 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: willametteriveroutlaw]
Dogfish Offline
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I just noticed that under my name it says "Poodle Smolt". Nice!
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#493607 - 03/06/09 02:17 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: Dogfish]
Todd Offline
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Originally Posted By: Dogfish
I just noticed that under my name it says "Poodle Smolt". Nice!


rofl
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#493611 - 03/06/09 02:45 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: Todd]
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I'll go on to say that if the Government tells us the bullchit story that "they hate our freedom!", and then goes on to infringe our freedom in the name of fighting "they", then "they" have won.

Either way, we're the real losers.

+1
Nice post Todd.
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#493651 - 03/06/09 04:27 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: docspud]
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It's been that way for a couple of weeks Dogfish.
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#493654 - 03/06/09 04:36 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: Jerry Garcia]
Rapid Robert Offline
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Registered: 01/11/02
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Loc: Selah Wa.
That ok Andy, mine use to say "Wish I was a Husky" ....I sure as hell didn't put it there. beathead
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#504964 - 04/28/09 01:05 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: Rapid Robert]
Todd Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Sorry for the lack of gun grabbing updates...been too busy fishing smile

As of April 28, 2009, 10:05am, no guns have been grabbed from me.

Anyone else have their guns grabbed yet?

Fish on...

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#504971 - 04/28/09 01:10 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd


Anyone else have their gun grabbed yet?



Oh yeeaah, last night!!!
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#504976 - 04/28/09 01:17 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: Todd]
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Originally Posted By: Todd

Anyone else have their guns grabbed yet?


Aunty never showed up at the strip mall in SeaTac frown
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#504986 - 04/28/09 01:39 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: ]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 27838
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
They've got lots of data on me...I've got FBI and CIA files, both...it's not like they can't just come in and take 'em if they want, I haven't hardly been home all month smile

Fish on...

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#505005 - 04/28/09 02:43 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: ]
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"just became a Dem"

That's because the GOP is all but dead.
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#505040 - 04/28/09 04:15 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: ]
4Salt Offline
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Registered: 03/07/00
Posts: 2955
Loc: Lynnwood, WA
There certainly ain't enough to be winnin' any elections Hank. That's why the GOP has been relyin' on all of the talk radio listenin', FOX News watchin', Bible-thumpin' right-wing retards instead. fridge cowboy

Now that they're an ever-shrinking demographic as well... things ain't lookin' so hot for the Republican Party... or should I say Republic Party.


Sounds awful stupid when you drop the last syllable... don't it? doh
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#505078 - 04/28/09 06:22 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: ]
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Oh, won't someone please grab my gun? PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE!
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#505095 - 04/28/09 07:29 PM Re: Obama gun ban process is starting. [Re: RichardSimmons]
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Obama isn't going to take your guns, but he has definatly put a scare into gun owners. Try to buy some amo or better yet, an AR15. You might be waiting a while. He sure has gotten the gun side of the economy booming. Wish I owned a gun store. Sales in every gun store is through the roof!
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