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#664003 - 02/18/11 12:36 AM Which 90/65 Jet motor is the best????
DrifterWA Offline
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Registered: 04/25/00
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Loc: East of Aberdeen, West of Mont...
Between all of us, this could be a very helpful topic for future purchasers of this size motor.....

Mercury 90/65-----2 stroke
Mercury 90/65-----4 stroke
Yamaha 90/65---- 2 stoke
Yamaha 90/65---- 4 stroke
Suski 90/65.......does make, that I could find
Honda 90/65------- 4 stoke
Etech 90/65---------2 stoke

If they were all on "like boats".....which would be the "over all best"????

Just wondering???????
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#664005 - 02/18/11 12:37 AM Re: Which 90/65 Jet motor is the best???? [Re: DrifterWA]
Driftfishnw Offline
Steelhead Hitman

Registered: 02/10/09
Posts: 2026
+1 Etech 2 stroker

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#664008 - 02/18/11 12:41 AM Re: Which 90/65 Jet motor is the best???? [Re: Driftfishnw]
fp Offline
Old Duffer

Registered: 03/15/99
Posts: 2967
Loc: Hoquiam,WA.USA
Love my Yamaha 4 strokes.

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#664009 - 02/18/11 12:43 AM Re: Which 90/65 Jet motor is the best???? [Re: fp]
Chad Lukehart Offline
Juvenile at Sea

Registered: 03/28/08
Posts: 137
Loc: Sedro Woolley, WA
I have an ETEC 150, non-jet, but after over 300+ hours would definately choose again. It will come out of the hole like a BOOH.

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#664018 - 02/18/11 01:37 AM Re: Which 90/65 Jet motor is the best???? [Re: ]
stlhdr1 Offline
BUCK NASTY!!

Registered: 01/26/00
Posts: 6424
Loc: Vancouver, WA
Originally Posted By: 2MANY
If your worried about the weight of motor vs boat size ....then go with a 2 stroke.


Bingo.....

2 stroke Yamaha 90/65.... Seen quite a few of them down here. They get it on and they're indestructable, assuming you slightly maintain them....

I've yet to run a 4-stroke anything that I like, including the kicker. Except for the noise and "trolling" with the kicker.. Tributary applications - they don't really work for me. I have plenty of buddies with T-8's and they're quiet allright and "troll" rather good but no matter how you look at it they not the best pick for side drifting. Shifter sucks and they have too much push at idle....

Personally, if you're buying a prop then buy 4 strokes, pumps are a 2-stroke thing....

Keith thumbs
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#664020 - 02/18/11 01:48 AM Re: Which 90/65 Jet motor is the best???? [Re: ]
stlhdr42 Offline
Spawner

Registered: 10/13/08
Posts: 847
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Definetly 2 stroke at least for the 90 hp variety. Those 4 strokes are too big, heavy and slow. They are great on big boats in the 200 hp or bigger but I would go with a 2 stroke 90. My 90 hp jet suzuki runs like a top. Don't think they make new 2 strokes though, so Etec gets my vote.

2many must be drunk or always ran old crappy 2 strokes. Mine starts right away always. Change spark plugs 1 a year. Oil injection works great. Not sure but I bet I have close to a 1000 hrs on mine, 10 yrs of runnin 2 days a week. Have done nothing but give her gas and oil. I would like to see you strap a 100 hp motor to a 14 ft boat.
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#664024 - 02/18/11 01:58 AM Re: Which 90/65 Jet motor is the best???? [Re: stlhdr42]
stlhdr1 Offline
BUCK NASTY!!

Registered: 01/26/00
Posts: 6424
Loc: Vancouver, WA
One other thing...

Gas economy...................

So many guys make that 4 stroke decision on saving "gas"... Burn less fuel, bla bla bla... 4 strokes are dogs without a prop.

If "budget's" in mind, you should have bought a canoe... rofl

Keep it in mind...

Keith
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#664026 - 02/18/11 02:02 AM Re: Which 90/65 Jet motor is the best???? [Re: stlhdr1]
Fish Stalker Offline
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Registered: 12/14/00
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Loc: S.W. Washington
Ill report back to you on the 90-65 merc in about 10 days...I am a mercury fan - more mercs on the water than any other motor...2nd would be yamaha then evinrude...ran them all...keep in mind that most motors are made in the same factory...

Keith hit the nail on the head....4 strokes=prop=columbia/ocean boat
2 strokes for jets

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#664033 - 02/18/11 02:16 AM Re: Which 90/65 Jet motor is the best???? [Re: Fish Stalker]
Fish Stalker Offline
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Registered: 12/14/00
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Loc: S.W. Washington
stay out of grown folks business

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#664038 - 02/18/11 02:29 AM Re: Which 90/65 Jet motor is the best???? [Re: ]
Fish Stalker Offline
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Registered: 12/14/00
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Loc: S.W. Washington
Weird that Ron actually runs a Verado which has a super charger on it to compinsate for the lack of power that the 4 strokes have...not to mention 90 % of what they do is on the cowlitz and columbia...

And yes ran them all bud, I'm sure you have a nice sled that gets it done just fine - a 2 stroke would just do it better for smaller or shallower rivers. Also the weight diff between your 4 stroke and the same power 2 stroke is typically much differnt and with free drifting weight displacement is key


Edited by Fish Stalker (02/18/11 02:31 AM)

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#664041 - 02/18/11 02:42 AM Re: Which 90/65 Jet motor is the best???? [Re: ]
Fish Stalker Offline
Repeat Spawner

Registered: 12/14/00
Posts: 1236
Loc: S.W. Washington
NICE! Brett have you ran an E tec yet? if so what are your thoughts on them? and what kind of a boat/motor are you fishing

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#664044 - 02/18/11 02:58 AM Re: Which 90/65 Jet motor is the best???? [Re: ]
stlhdr1 Offline
BUCK NASTY!!

Registered: 01/26/00
Posts: 6424
Loc: Vancouver, WA
Originally Posted By: 2MANY
Stlhdr1...What the hell is that sand shrimp doing to your bait of eggs?


It's carp bait....... rofl That combo is known to produce some serious SUCK MONSTERS! rofl

Keith
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#664046 - 02/18/11 03:02 AM Re: Which 90/65 Jet motor is the best???? [Re: ]
stlhdr1 Offline
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Registered: 01/26/00
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Loc: Vancouver, WA
Originally Posted By: 2MANY
No I haven't ran an e-tech but I hear people love them. My boat is a 21' Fish Rite, 225 yamaha four stroke tiller(because it weighed the same as the 200 4 stroke and had more power) , T-8 Yamaha, 5 Degree bottom. I just moved the batteries all upfront behind the fish box under a diamond plate box/cover. It made all the difference with the weight issue, added upper platform area, and brought the back end up about 2"+- when free drifting. It works pretty well now......and you?


Here's a hint... If you've got to move batteries around you've got issues, probably not the power of the motor that's lacking.... Just the overall length/width/weight.... 225? At least you're stimulating the economy!

Keith moose
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#664049 - 02/18/11 03:31 AM Re: Which 90/65 Jet motor is the best???? [Re: ]
stlhdr1 Offline
BUCK NASTY!!

Registered: 01/26/00
Posts: 6424
Loc: Vancouver, WA
Originally Posted By: 2MANY
Actually the boat was bought before the economy needed "stimulation", Your "hint" misses the mark, and your comments about "having issues" are funny. It would be like me saying that having the title of general manager sounds cool but anything other than owner is a step down. Obviously you have never set up a boat on your own. Carry on.


I was just having fun with ya... Relax! thumbs

Keith
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#664057 - 02/18/11 10:28 AM Re: Which 90/65 Jet motor is the best???? [Re: Fish Stalker]
The Catcherman Offline
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Registered: 06/24/99
Posts: 1246
Loc: Ellensburg, WA
I'd like to hear more discussion on people's experience with the 90/65 HP 2 vs. 4 stroke models. Keep it going.
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#664059 - 02/18/11 10:50 AM Re: Which 90/65 Jet motor is the best???? [Re: The Catcherman]
large edward Offline
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Registered: 12/17/10
Posts: 276
Loc: Brier, WA
DrifterWa -

I'm about to start my eighteenth year with my 90/65 Merc jet. Bought it new and I've never had a problem with this motor, knock on wood.

It would be interesting to add a column to your motor list to include warranty info.

I've noticed that the weight of 4-strokes keeps dropping, and I believe the new 90/65 Hondas only weigh about 40-45 more pounds than my 1994 2-stroke Merc.

I'm hearing some good things about the E-Tecs, but also that fuel economy gains are not as good as I had previously heard.

I have a good buddy with hundreds of hours on his 90/65 Yammie and he's had very few problems. It's older, but a very light motor.

Have you ruled out sizing up your motor for that new boat, say to a 115/80?

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#664089 - 02/18/11 01:25 PM Re: Which 90/65 Jet motor is the best???? [Re: ]
stlhdr42 Offline
Spawner

Registered: 10/13/08
Posts: 847
Loc: where the fish swim
Funny how it works. The 18 ft alumawelds seem to do best with a 90 or maybe a 115 tops. I have seen em with 125's and even 150's and they all float ass heavy and won't track right like that. But you jump to a 20 fter and they float ok with a 200. So a 90 on a 18ft does sound underpowered and it is with the 4th guy in, anything bigger would start to work against you. In the market for a 21' with a 200.
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#664101 - 02/18/11 02:45 PM Re: Which 90/65 Jet motor is the best???? [Re: stlhdr42]
supcoop Offline
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Registered: 03/11/05
Posts: 1132
Loc: Kirkland
Ran a 90/60 2 stroke merc on an 18' alumaweld flat that did the trick quite well. We had that boat loaded HEAVY several times (used it for working a research project in the snoho basin) and it still seemed to get up and go. 3-4 people absolutely no problem. We also ran a alumaweld dory (16' I think) with a 60/40 yami 4stroke pump. Big difference. I think stlhdr42 hit it on the head about the motors matching up to the boats. Some boats do great with specific motors, ie the 20' free drifter with a 115 yami 4stroke. Boat is just balanced correctly.

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#664102 - 02/18/11 02:54 PM Re: Which 90/65 Jet motor is the best???? [Re: supcoop]
large edward Offline
Returning Adult

Registered: 12/17/10
Posts: 276
Loc: Brier, WA
Don't forget though, that the stock width at the bottom of the transom on most 18's is 66" and on 20's it's 72" - big difference.

If I had DrifterWa's 17' x 72" boat, I would run a 115/80....but I don't, and he'll make the best choice for his needs.

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#664122 - 02/18/11 04:46 PM Re: Which 90/65 Jet motor is the best???? [Re: stlhdr1]
mikey b Offline
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Registered: 12/24/07
Posts: 420
get a mercury optimax. If you do any research you will learn that this is the best outboard out there right now.

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