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| #67984 - 08/14/02 05:22 PM  15 pound cutthroat?? |  
|   Spawner
 
 Registered:  05/03/01
 Posts: 972
 Loc:  Moses Lake
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Isn't a 15 pound cutthroat a state record... and what the heck would a cutthat size be doing in Lake WA.  Normally cutts in Lake WA are sea-runs that
 choose to stay in the lake, and I wouldn't expect them to be any bigger
 than standard sized sea-runs.
 
 I checked the tail on this fish and it's rounded... so guess it's not a salmon.
 
 State's not playing with triploid cutts....
 
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| #67985 - 08/14/02 06:37 PM  Re: 15 pound cutthroat?? |  
|   Juvenille at Sea
 
 Registered:  08/13/02
 Posts: 111
 Loc:  Redmond, Wa.
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man would sure like to know more about this fish and how it was caught . |  
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| #67987 - 08/15/02 12:05 AM  Re: 15 pound cutthroat?? |  
|   Returning Adult
 
   Registered:  09/01/01
 Posts: 354
 Loc:  Shoreline, Wa.
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Mike C,
 I will send you a better pix.  Yes, it is 100%
 Cutthroat. Spot pattern, maxillary extended behind
 the eye, orange slash under jaw, and most importently, hyoid teeth behind tongue.
 
 Cigar
 
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| #67988 - 08/15/02 12:36 AM  Re: 15 pound cutthroat?? |  
|   River Nutrients
 
   Registered:  05/06/01
 Posts: 2959
 Loc:  Nisqually
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Lake WA is a very big hole.  There has to be more big fish like that in there.  What an eating machine.  I have caught cutts in the three to four pound range so why not 15 pounds. 
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| #67989 - 08/15/02 11:17 AM  Re: 15 pound cutthroat?? |  
|   Spawner
 
 Registered:  05/03/01
 Posts: 972
 Loc:  Moses Lake
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Carl,
 Why not???  Because most, if not all,  Lake WA cutts are decended from sea-run stock.  Sea-run stock doesn't get much larger than 6 pounds.
 
 That 15 pounder is the equivalent of growing a quarter horse from a pair of Shetlands...  not saying it doesn't happen, but it's rare.
 
 Now, maybe the state or the UW fisheries was playing with beardslee's... and plunked some in Lake WA.  I think beardslee's are the Crescent Lake cutts.. those are the ones I'm thinking of.  Last I checked the Crescent Lake cutts would run in the mid and upper teens.  Then again someone could have put some Lahontans in, but this one didn't have the coloration of one.
 
 Whichever strain it is, it's still a herking sized cutt.
 
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| #67990 - 08/15/02 01:20 PM  Re: 15 pound cutthroat?? |  
|   River Nutrients
 
   Registered:  05/06/01
 Posts: 2959
 Loc:  Nisqually
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Any fish will get giganto if it sits around and eats all of the time.  Just imagine being a cutthroat and having the buffet of smolt and other smaller fish that Lake WA provides.  I bet there are even bigger cutts than that swimming around in there. 
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| #67991 - 08/15/02 01:37 PM  Re: 15 pound cutthroat?? |  
|   Juvenille at Sea
 
 Registered:  01/14/02
 Posts: 147
 Loc:  Olympia, WA
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It wouldn't be one of those Donaldson trout, would it? I don't know enough about them... |  
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| #67992 - 08/15/02 01:49 PM  Re: 15 pound cutthroat?? |  
|   Spawner
 
 Registered:  05/03/01
 Posts: 972
 Loc:  Moses Lake
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Donaldson's are lake rainbow trout of steelhead strain.  
 BC played with them in the mid 80's and planted some of their hard to reach lakes with them.  They do get up in the teens.  I heard of them to 14 pounds and they probably get bigger.  Fishboy was going to be near a lake that had them in it, but his trip got cancelled.
 
 EL,  for a fish to get really big it has to have length also... not trying to argue here... so don't take my words as such.  A strain of fish will only get so long... and only so round... but with more food it may grow bigger.. but as I see it, only grow bigger in girth.  More food doesn't quite equate to longer length.
 
 It would be like giving me more food.  I won't grow any taller, but you can bet for sure I'd be buying my clothes down at Bob's Big Boys store.
 
 This is why Cresent Lake is the only lake in WA that grows big cutthroat trout. It has to do with genetics.  I'm not counting Lahontans as they have other things going for them that allows them to grow big.
 
 Besides this is an western WA lake where the waters are supposed to be nutrient poor.
 
 Dang. This is a real eye-opener from Lake WA!
 
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| #67993 - 08/15/02 01:57 PM  Re: 15 pound cutthroat?? |  
|   Spawner
 
 Registered:  01/03/01
 Posts: 797
 Loc:  Post Falls, ID
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At our club meeting last night, we were talking about this trout and a couple of guys in our club know biologists who say they've caught quite a few cutthroat up to 32" during gill net test fisheries. |  
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| #67994 - 08/15/02 02:28 PM  Re: 15 pound cutthroat?? |  
|   Returning Adult
 
 Registered:  07/18/02
 Posts: 275
 Loc:  Bellevue
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Someone please correct me if I am wrong here, but isn't Lake Washington one of the most underrated and underfished Lakes of its kind?  I would think that this lake offers more surprises ahead as it gets some more serious pressure. 
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| #67995 - 08/15/02 04:04 PM  Re: 15 pound cutthroat?? |  
|   River Nutrients
 
   Registered:  05/06/01
 Posts: 2959
 Loc:  Nisqually
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Zen, maybe we can equate this fish to a blackmouth (resident king salmon).  Blackmouth do not migrate to rivers in the fall.  They grow up in salt water and stay in salt water.  There energy is spent on feeding.  When you catch a blackmouth they are usually shaped like a football, narrow at the head and tail and full of girth in the middle.  They are also shorter in length than migratory fish.  A migratory king will be longer from head to tail with out a gut.  More symetrical I guess.  
 This is just a theory.
 
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| #67996 - 08/15/02 11:27 PM  Re: 15 pound cutthroat?? |  
|   River Nutrients
 
   Registered:  05/06/01
 Posts: 2959
 Loc:  Nisqually
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Once salmon is done for this year I am going to give the big lake more pressure.  I caught nice trout in the middle of January last year.  :p 
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| #67997 - 08/16/02 03:07 PM  Re: 15 pound cutthroat?? |  
|   Returning Adult
 
 Registered:  07/18/02
 Posts: 275
 Loc:  Bellevue
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I'll be right ther with you Carl.  Maybe we can hook up in my boat.  It will take the rougher water better since it is bigger. 
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| #67998 - 08/16/02 06:39 PM  Re: 15 pound cutthroat?? |  
|   River Nutrients
 
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| #67999 - 08/20/02 02:06 PM  Re: 15 pound cutthroat?? |  
|   Spawner
 
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| #68000 - 08/20/02 02:25 PM  Re: 15 pound cutthroat?? |  
|   Spawner
 
 Registered:  05/02/01
 Posts: 762
 Loc:  Silver Star,Mt
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How did it taste.   
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| #68003 - 08/21/02 12:58 AM  Re: 15 pound cutthroat?? |  
|   Returning Adult
 
   Registered:  09/01/01
 Posts: 354
 Loc:  Shoreline, Wa.
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Sorry Kurt, No Rapalas in this man's boat!!!        This big fella liked spoons....BIG SPOONS.     Jacob, Thanks a bunch for posting updated picture.       Cigar
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