New to Spey casting and looking for some advice on my lines, casting grease line/waking method. I own a Sage Z-Axis 7136 and posess 3 different lines...Skagit body 550gr, a running line w/ a Skagit Flight SHD 500gr, and another Skagit Flight SHD 525gr. All the casting I have done has been using sink tips attached to ends of these lines. My question is, if I use these strictly as floaters for waking or grease lining, do I need to add cheaters to get them to cast? I am headed to the Clearwater, GR, and Methow for 2 weeks and am going to non dredge for some Steel. Never been over there before and have never Spey casted a total floater.

Floating MOW tip.

I see that most MOW tips include a sinking portion. I have plenty of sink tips. One though is a 10' total float. Curious to which of my lines this xtra 10' would work the best? Will it help the cast that much?Thanks.

Medium full floating MOW without sinking portion, they're about $20. Casts will fail using your Skagit heads without some sort of tip, no cheater required.

Just got back from playing around on the river. Your right! Casts with the lines I have failed miserably. Definately need more SH length in the water to load the rod! Just never tried them without sink tips attached. Looks like an excuse to spend some more $$ tomorrow. Thanks for the info!

No cheaters needed. Probably the most popular floating tip to use to make a floating Skagit head, is to use a Rio Mow floating tip. A 10' medium Rio Mow floating tip (450 to 575 Skagits) would be appropriate for your Skagit heads.

Airflo has recently come out with the new Rage floating Skagit head, which is quickly becoming the preferred floating Skagit head, versus adding a floating tip to a regular Skagit head.

+10000

R&G,

A Scandi head is probably one of the easier ways to enter into casting and fishing a floating line. About 450-475 gr if the 500 Skagits are what you like for chucking tips. Disclaimer: I don't own, use, or have even tried a Scandi cuz I have a bunch of standard or short belly floating lines for my dry line needs.

Sg

We had a guy in camp last week with this Skagit that looked like a clothesline.
He was using a sink-tip which is not the norm on the D.
He did bag a big bassturd on it though.

We slam-dunked 'em with the hardware....that's the norm.
His partner, Bill, 68, up at 4:30 and hammerin' all day long (spey)...amazing dude. A fish bum at 68, fishin' roosterfish in Mex during winter and the D all summer long.

They were camped across from us....a classic sight with the gas lantern glow. Wish I had a tripod and a capable camera for that.
We lit up the spudgun with luminous charges on Saturday night.
Bill hollers, shoot some over here!
We've wanted to shoot that camp for years but didn't want to upset anyone. We're like...thank you God !!!!!!

Our best shot (last one) was about 15 feet offshore. It's a big river. The applause from Bill & Co. was like that of a fireworks display...awesome night in a roadless area deep in a canyon somewhere.

We need a bigger gun for next year. Workin' on it.
There's more to fishin' than just fishin'.

Luminous charges:
Load the spudgun and pour a little luminous juice from a light-stick down the barrel onto the potato.
The potato now looks like a tracer mortar round when shot....it's a beautiful sight guaranteed to put a smile on your face.
And when you're invited to shoot at the camp across the river, you're peein' down your leg in anticipation.
If the wind is blowing just right, the shooter comes away with a scourge of luminous freckles to go along with the luminous fingers.

"It wasn't me, officer."

<= Guy to ask about spud guns that can cross the Deschutes.

Just sayin'.



Fish on...

Todd

Lower 24...pretty wide down there.
Workin' on a breach loader

+1 on the MOW tips. They got a good thing going there. Just picked up the full floating and another sinker or two in the heavy category this afternoon. Bout time someone got smart with all of this tip business.

Bought the 435gr Scandi and the MOW tip. Both cast well but I think the Scandi is a little easier. Will be using both and the MOW offers quick change to different tips. Thanks for the input.

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Thanks for all the tips. Back from my trip. When I got to the Clearwater I found I needed more head length....struggled to get it way out. Went to see Poppy at the Red Shed and he fixed me up with an Airflow Delta Spey line. The 54' head was difficult to manage at first, but with some guidance from an expert it wasn't long and I had the hang of it. Best day there was 3 to the beach. Used the same setup on the GR and had multple hookups daily and was able to cover all the water easily. Beautiful country over there and definately going back. The Methow had been slow but some new fish seem to be moving in the lower stretches and made for some good fishing. The 2 week trip got cut short to 10 days but overall I think I hooked up 24 landed 18. The GR and Methow fish seem to be much smaller than the CR but still fun. Not a numbers guy but thought that was pretty good for my first time over. Definately a confidence booster and hope it carries over to the coast this winter. Have lots of pics but need to figure out how to post.

[quote=RUNnGUN] Not a numbers guy but thought that was pretty good for my first time over.quote]

You definitely had a good trip!