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#750116 - 03/26/12 09:38 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: 2MANY]
Timber Offline
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Fucckin NRA!!!

They shot that boy!!!
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#750137 - 03/26/12 11:09 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Timber]
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Sad story.

If I ran into a Zimmerman when I was a kid I might have been shot.
<thinks back to the commotion we caused>
With his mall cop history, methinks Mr. Z should have been armed with a radio (only).
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#750140 - 03/26/12 11:24 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: 2MANY]
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Originally Posted By: 2MANY
Perhaps this applys.

Originally Posted By: Salmo g.
I don't know. I doubt racism is the topical cause. Blacks are probably suspended disproportionately because they misbehave disproportionately. Getting at the root cause could likely uncover racism, and probably already has, as one of the main reasons blacks are at a disadvantage in American society, on average. If that's the case, then it's probable that a black student would be more likely than a white student to show up at school, under-rested, under-nourished, under-dressed, un-loved, and otherwise unprepared to learn. Hence, they misbehave and are more likely to be suspended.

I've had a lot of friends and relatives in education, and I was initially surprised to learn how prevalent social dysfunction is, cutting across racial and economic classes. However, as expected, blacks and hispanics are hit disproportionately harder.


an aquaintance of mine once said, "The answer to the question 'WHY' is the booby prize of life."

I suggest that "disproportionate is as disproportionate does"
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#750150 - 03/27/12 01:09 AM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Dave Vedder]
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Block watch captain? Block watches have rank? Could he deputize people as block watch members in an emergency? I smells a poser.
I think Al Sharpton said it best at a recent rally to draw attention to this issue when he said, "Don't talk to us like we ignant."

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#750172 - 03/27/12 08:49 AM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Direct-Drive]
2MANY Offline
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Originally Posted By: Direct-Drive
Sad story.

If I ran into a Zimmerman when I was a kid I might have been shot.
<thinks back to the commotion we caused>
With his mall cop history, methinks Mr. Z should have been armed with a radio (only).





In my opinion he should have had a whistle.

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#750173 - 03/27/12 08:52 AM Re: Florida shooting [Re: cupo]
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I'm a fully qualified OF. And If I was being sat on by a punk that
was banging my head on the pavement I would perforate him.
Stress of the moment.
If it comes out that the issue went that rout. I don't see how they
can charge Zimmerman with any thing other than discharging a
fire arm in a residential area.
Tragic that two confrontational people ran into each other and
destroyed at least two lives.

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#750176 - 03/27/12 09:41 AM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Illyrian]
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I'd like to think I wouldn't get myself into that type of situation. I certainly wouldn't be armed and patrolling my neighborhood...that's just plain crazy.

However, if someone had broken my nose and was pounding my head on the sidewalk, you can rest assured he'd get plugged.
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#750181 - 03/27/12 10:25 AM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Hankster]
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The guy should have known better than to follow a teen provoking an altercation and should have left it alone. The kid should know that pounding someones head off the street can certainly get you shot. Sad story for both of them for sure.

Why is it that we allow the normal few must make it a race thing and use it for their own interests. Jessy and Rev Al (who I actually like) jump into action to get themselves headlines and profit from a sad situation. Helping no one and making it all the worse.

Same with our liberal friends here that jump on before we know what happened and try to make it a race issue. Took all of two minutes with zero proof that race had anything to do with it. Maybe next time we hold judgement until the facts come out before we call for blood from the "racist". Somehow I doubt it will make a difference if it furthers an agenda.
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#750182 - 03/27/12 10:31 AM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Hankster]
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a few thoughts i have on this whole mess
-it's not self defense when you start losing a fight you started.

-when your community has a history of racially uneven justice you should expect racial protests.

-any kid should be very suspicious about strange men following them as they walk through a neighborhood.

-regardless of what happens in this case hopefully people will become aware of the dangers posed by psychologically messed up cop wannabees.

-a quick and easy way to change the "stand your ground" gun law would be for the black community to start arming themselves and using the law to get away with killing "threatening" white people. even saint ronnie passed gun control laws as governor when the black panthers started carrying guns in public.

-i never want to live in a gated community... because i have to deal with the type of people who want to live in a gated community.

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#750194 - 03/27/12 11:19 AM Re: Florida shooting [Re: topwater]
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Originally Posted By: topwater
a few thoughts i have on this whole mess
-it's not self defense when you start losing a fight you started.

-when your community has a history of racially uneven justice you should expect racial protests.

-any kid should be very suspicious about strange men following them as they walk through a neighborhood.

-regardless of what happens in this case hopefully people will become aware of the dangers posed by psychologically messed up cop wannabees.

-a quick and easy way to change the "stand your ground" gun law would be for the black community to start arming themselves and using the law to get away with killing "threatening" white people. even saint ronnie passed gun control laws as governor when the black panthers started carrying guns in public.

-i never want to live in a gated community... because i have to deal with the type of people who want to live in a gated community.


+1

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#750199 - 03/27/12 11:32 AM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Salmo g.]
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A little thoughts on your thoughts.


Originally Posted By: Salmo g.
Originally Posted By: topwater
a few thoughts i have on this whole mess
-it's not self defense when you start losing a fight you started.

No where did I hear the guy threw any punches at the kid and following someone is not starting a fight or some tailgaters would be getting a needed butt whoopin' often

-when your community has a history of racially uneven justice you should expect racial protests.

As much as you would like it to be Florida 2012 is not Mississippi 1950-60

-any kid should be very suspicious about strange men following them as they walk through a neighborhood.

+1 but being as the kid lived in the neighborhood he likely knew exactly who was following him as the guy was head of the watch and out there all the time. Maybe not but most likely.

-regardless of what happens in this case hopefully people will become aware of the dangers posed by psychologically messed up cop wannabees.

+1 there as well. Rent a cops and wannabees seem to take themselves far to seriously

-a quick and easy way to change the "stand your ground" gun law would be for the black community to start arming themselves and using the law to get away with killing "threatening" white people. even saint ronnie passed gun control laws as governor when the black panthers started carrying guns in public.

Anyone in any community can arm themselves. No law in Florida or anywhere else that states different races have different laws. Lame liberalism there. Very lame.

-i never want to live in a gated community... because i have to deal with the type of people who want to live in a gated community.


+10000

+1
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#750216 - 03/27/12 12:34 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: docspud]
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Well said Topwater. You hit all the marks.

Funny Docspud figures the kid should know the shooter but doesn't figure that hte shooter should know the kid or that maybe just maybe the shooter had harassed him out of the neighborhood before.

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#750218 - 03/27/12 12:49 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: salmosalar]
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Originally Posted By: salmosalar

Funny Docspud figures the kid should know the shooter
Go Sox,
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Docspud said "The kid should know that pounding someones head off the street can certainly get you shot."

That doesn't sound anything like the kid should know the shooter.
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#750221 - 03/27/12 01:02 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: topwater]
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Topwater +1

Here's the thing I can't figure out -- seriously puzzling -- is how Zimmerman got so beat-up... He wasn't jumped/surprised by the kid, he clearly saw and was watching him, so how does a 140lb kid take on and defeat someone 100lbs his senior? I just can't see that happening...

Maybe he gets in a good shot (nose) but even that's hard/lucky to pull off. But the "bashing his head" stuff -- If I tried that on someone 100lbs my senor they'd just toss me aside, or roll me off. It doesn't make sense to me.
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#750225 - 03/27/12 01:34 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: IrishRogue]
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There is so much about this story that isn't making sense. And probably never will.

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#750231 - 03/27/12 02:18 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Hankster]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
Originally Posted By: salmosalar

Funny Docspud figures the kid should know the shooter
Go Sox,
cds



Docspud said "The kid should know that pounding someones head off the street can certainly get you shot."

That doesn't sound anything like the kid should know the shooter.


Here is the quote from doc pud:
"+1 but being as the kid lived in the neighborhood he likely knew exactly who was following him as the guy was head of the watch and out there all the time. Maybe not but most likely."

Like I said the kid should known who the shooter was but the shooter (block watch captain) shouldn't have recognized Trayvon?

I gotta tell you Hank, I had you pegged as literate this whole time. You're gonna make me admit I'm wrong if you keep it up.

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#750263 - 03/27/12 05:08 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: salmosalar]
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Here's a Glaring example of the Visual Agenda of the Lame Stream Media Bias . . . .



Kinda puts a New Spin on events.
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#750270 - 03/27/12 05:35 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: JohnQ]
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The media is despicable. evil
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#750273 - 03/27/12 05:47 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Sol Duc]
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So are you but hey...............nobody forces you to read the media, and while I read some of what you post, I don't give what you say much credence.........
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#750280 - 03/27/12 06:03 PM Re: Florida shooting [Re: Banned User]
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I really care what a drunk loser has to say about anything rofl
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