Make up yer mind!!

This is one of those seasonal wedge issues designed to get voters (sheep) to the polls....nothing more.

Both sides will flip and flop depending on which way the wind blows.

Romney just flipped on the GM bailout saying now that his efforts were key in the recovery of the auto maker.

Not much to see here.

I really found this interesting because I can't imagine a single vote change as a result of this decision. It doesn't seem to me to be politically advantageous, so what was his point?

Gay Hollywood money according to CBS News.

Ahhhh, of course. Money. My Dumb!
O da Ho! (Isn't that a State?)




OK, sorry Idaho......

His findings "evolve" where ever the money comes from......you can trust him for that.

Wait, so fundraising around MORAL stances is now sleazy?

I'm on the RNC donor email list (handy!) and 90% of those emails are around MORAL stances. Are you kidding?

Things that make you go HMMMMMM....

Closing comment about Obama girls going to school with kids who are the products of same-sex unions.

Really now? That statement is dumber'N'hell.... not to mention biologically impossible.

That same sex marriage could be a campaign issue is evidence of ignorance among the electorate. But that could be said of many issues.

Well said.

Hank,

Is your entire life about the desire to criticize people for actually changing their minds? To me there are three kinds of people. People who can't MAKE UP their minds on anything. People who have opinions but are not afraid change their minds thoughtfully. And finally people who never change their minds.

In your world the first two groups are "flip floppers", but the third group are the ones who have courage.

In my universe the first and last group are pinheads--for changing your mind -- actually allowing yourself to be persuaded by new information, new situations -- that is the hallmark of an active mind.

And while we're on the subject of flip-flopping, how is it that you're going to vote for a guy who flip flopped 180 degrees on major public policy issues (romneycare anyone?) and still bury the President for changing his position about 10 degrees on this issue?

... or is the real issue just that you'll parrot what the RW media wants you to say?

Amazing on each side that when your guy flip-flops he evolves but just change the D to an R and he has no back bone and did for political gain. Is everyone really dumb enough to believe anything these a-holes say. What will be the next evolution.....Check the pols and see which will get them elected. That will lead you right to where each them will have their next epiphany.

Like a lot of decisions--especially political ones-- that have mulit-dimensional aspects. I think it grossly oversimplifies reality to say "he did it because cash bundlers told him". I posit that there are 4 big reasons:

1. His base wanted him to (your bundler point) because they care about the issue.
2. The nationwide polling trends made it safe
3. Biden waded in and forced the presidents hand

but none of those are the real reason he said it...

4. Because he's held this opinion (and his tongue) for a long time as a political compromise. FINALLY his public opinion matches his private.

to me obama is not pandering because it is a position that may actually hurt his reelection chances not withstanding some fundraising boost from gay donors.

the evangelical crazies do not really like romney but this position by obama might get them fired up enough to energize the base in swing states.

to me, a changed position that hurts one's political chances speaks volumes more than changing one's positions on a daily basis.

obama may have made a gutsy call to go into pakistan for bin laden... but romney has even bigger balls lying about his past positions on a daily basis.

Hank, once again I salute you.

You spend far more (as in too much) time in explaination of the obvious.....and for what? The chances of changing anyone's beliefs here are somewhere between zero and one half of one percent...being generous.

I always appreciate how the Left Ringers always try to say that any original thoughts and statements contrary to their own talking points must be the result of a mass right wing conclusion.

The whole point of this thread is obvious, but maybe not so much for some.

It boils down to ......... Flip Floppin' ain't a Romney exclusive trait. You dipsticks can try to find some heart warming reason for "O" boy's reversal, but it doesn't wash.....it was and is all about the money, honey.........

Since I haven't had a drink in more than 25 years, you must be talking about yourself! One foot out and one foot in......as per

I made plenty of bad choices in my life.....you're just starting. Rookie.

The pot head can't even understand that Slab stopped drinking 25 years ago....he's fried.