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#799451 - 11/11/12 11:20 PM Bad News...
JesseM Offline
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You've got a tumor.

Check out what Doc brought into the boat...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BL0O41eFcBI&feature=plcp

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#799452 - 11/11/12 11:27 PM Re: Bad News... [Re: JesseM]
Eric Offline
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Oughta go great on the BBQ! sick

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#799490 - 11/12/12 03:11 AM Re: Bad News... [Re: Eric]
eyeFISH Offline
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Thanks for posting the vid, Jesse.

Just shared it on Ifish as well.

There's a reference in the vid about finding a similar tumor in summer steel. That was about 3 years ago...

http://www.ifish.net/board/showpost.php?p=2684324&postcount=4
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#799548 - 11/12/12 02:03 PM Re: Bad News... [Re: eyeFISH]
eyeFISH Offline
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Pathologist just called to confirm a cancer diagnosis from frozen section. High grade poorly differentiated sarcoma... Poss rhabdomyosarcoma poss liposarcoma poss malignant fibrohistiocytoma.

Completely non-kidney origin.

Good thing we put it out of its misery.
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#799567 - 11/12/12 02:39 PM Re: Bad News... [Re: ]
ParaLeaks Offline
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I've never seen one like that.

blender.....jam?


Edited by Slab Happy (11/12/12 02:42 PM)
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#799654 - 11/12/12 06:41 PM Re: Bad News... [Re: ParaLeaks]
eyeFISH Offline
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I went to chat with my pathologist to show him the video, but the signal to my iPhone was almost non-existent in the lead-lined bowels of the hospital.

So we got on his computer to track down the YouTube video on a search of "salmon tumor", but came up with this instead....



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKadU4VZIFM

That's a pink salmon in Alaska with two HUGE tumors, one of which broke thru the skin to completely emerge on the surface.

YUMMMMMMMMM!


Edited by eyeFISH (11/12/12 06:42 PM)
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#799738 - 11/12/12 10:48 PM Re: Bad News... [Re: eyeFISH]
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I vote angiosarcoma,

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#799778 - 11/13/12 12:36 AM Re: Bad News... [Re: fishbadger]
eyeFISH Offline
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Well every expert has an opinion.

Obviously my diagnosis based on gross examination was, to quote Parker, "an epic fail". It's a good thing they don't let the eye guys operate anywhere else on a human patient!

Well my pathologist colleague is gonna bring the slides to their next Grand Rounds as a "mystery case". That's where all of the pathologists get together to analyze and diagnose "interesting" cases.

Only he won't divulge that this specimen came from a salmon.
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#799782 - 11/13/12 01:03 AM Re: Bad News... [Re: JesseM]
JesseM Offline
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This is going to ruin my appetite for fish for a few days.

Here are the pics after the tumor was removed.





Edited by JesseM (11/13/12 01:03 AM)

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#799787 - 11/13/12 01:30 AM Re: Bad News... [Re: JesseM]
eyeFISH Offline
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Pretty aggressive tumor seeing as how it displaced the adjacent ribs and basically ate thru the others.
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#799799 - 11/13/12 07:37 AM Re: Bad News... [Re: eyeFISH]
GBL Offline
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Seen a couple of those over the years, one in a Coho on the Sky and the other, much bigger from the North Fork Lewis on a Summer Run. Looked like the fish ate a golf ball from the course, that was the joke until we cut it open!

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#799800 - 11/13/12 07:38 AM Re: Bad News... [Re: GBL]
GBL Offline
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And that was back in the 70's

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#799801 - 11/13/12 08:31 AM Re: Bad News... [Re: GBL]
ParaLeaks Offline
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Doc, I'm listening......cause of such things known?
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#799855 - 11/13/12 02:22 PM Re: Bad News... [Re: ParaLeaks]
Dee Offline
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Loc: Seattle
Eh, it'll smoke up just fine...

<ducks for cover>

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#800037 - 11/13/12 11:59 PM Re: Bad News... [Re: Dee]
fishbadger Offline
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I trust you got negative margins,

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#800062 - 11/14/12 01:38 AM Re: Bad News... [Re: fishbadger]
eyeFISH Offline
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Originally Posted By: fishbadger
I trust you got negative margins,

fb


Are you kidding? Look at the 1st pic in Jesse's last post. There's still a bit of pudding visible in the bottom of the bowl.

Thought I did pretty good for using only the mini-scooper on the butt end of that fillet knife.
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#800074 - 11/14/12 09:19 AM Re: Bad News... [Re: eyeFISH]
fishbadger Offline
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Registered: 03/06/01
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Loc: Gig Harbor, WA
sorry, didn't have a full grasp on the conditions in your OR. certainly not casting aspersions on your surgical skills,

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#800294 - 11/14/12 10:57 PM Re: Bad News... [Re: fishbadger]
Huntar Offline
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Registered: 06/23/99
Posts: 400
Loc: Yakima, WA
Originally Posted By: fishbadger
I trust you got negative margins,

fb


It doesn't matter.............it was DEAD.
Margins only matter for "5-year" stats, don't they?

I appreciate the posts and info Doc.

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#800403 - 11/15/12 01:29 PM Re: Bad News... [Re: eyeFISH]
47 Degrees Offline
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Registered: 11/05/12
Posts: 30
Loc: West Seattle
Originally Posted By: eyeFISH
I went to chat with my pathologist to show him the video, but the signal to my iPhone was almost non-existent in the lead-lined bowels of the hospital.

So we got on his computer to track down the YouTube video on a search of "salmon tumor", but came up with this instead....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKadU4VZIFM

That's a pink salmon in Alaska with two HUGE tumors, one of which broke thru the skin to completely emerge on the surface.

YUMMMMMMMMM!

Gross, just another reason not to eat pinks.

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#874182 - 12/08/13 04:11 PM Re: Bad News... [Re: eyeFISH]
eyeFISH Offline
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Originally Posted By: eyeFISH
Pretty aggressive tumor seeing as how it displaced the adjacent ribs and basically ate thru the others.

Never did followup with the final pathologic results from permanent section, but better late than never. Hope no one sues me for a delay in diagnosis.

FINAL DIAGNOSIS:
I am attaching histology from permanent sections. What really threw me is the fish erythrocytes, which (apparently) are nucleated. What is shown, then, is a spindle cell malignant tumor with vascular spaces containing many red cells—a high grade angiosarcoma.


Unfortunately, the patient did NOT survive the operation. wink
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