Maybe for some folks. I've also seen many folks who are quite capable of "doing nothing" stone cold sober.

a little over my legal allowance,
but im enjoying myself...

Stocking up for a shortage??

I remember in college there was always one at the end of summer....

Good grief Slab; don't go being as dumb as KK says you are. Of course laws hold the lawless accountable. But why does growing, manufacturing, distributing, selling, possessing, or using drugs have to be a behavior for which there needs to be an accounting? You can legally drink yourself sh!tfaced, and society doesn't need you to account or face any adverse consequence UNLESS you behave in a way that poses a danger to society, like driving a car and hitting someone.

Now be smart and stay with me here a second while we reason with logic and not empty-headed emotion. Society is obliged to protect itself from actions by its members that are harmful to it (society) not the members engaging in actions that you may disapprove of. Society is not harmed by members who engage in the aforementioned - growing, manufacturing, distributing, selling, possessing, or using drugs. Society is only harmed when one of its idiot members decides to perform an action like DUI or shooting a competing drug seller, etc.

By legalizing drugs, all drugs, most of the actions that actually harm society become less likely to occur.

OK, are ya' following? I've demonstrated that roughly the same proportion of society that uses drugs when they are illegal will use drugs if they are legal. And hopefully you understand that it is socially stupid and pointless to hold people "accountable" (in your words) when their actions do not harm society, even if those people do harm themselves ( you are at least that much of a libertarian, aren't you?)

What society does need to hold people accountable for are actions that are actually harmful to the non-partaking members of society. And since numerous laws already cover that, nothing further is necessary.

No where have I suggested anarchy or survival of the fittest, sans police. Of course we need police, and it is the job of police to protect us (to the very limited degree they can) from those who perform actions that actually harm us. That institution is known as civilization.

Nonetheless, putting people in jail or imposing monetary fines for behaviors that are of little or no consequence to the rest of society is flat out stupid, not to mention costly, unproductive, and in the case of the war on drugs, counter-productive. If you do not understand this, I can only surmise that you are dumber than a box of rocks and that what KK says about you is pretty much spot on.

Sg

I've got some baking to do, it is the holidays after all...;)

the baking sounds like a Pun.....

you use that for cooking? we used to use the trimmings....

Anyone who's against the legalization of pot and either smokes cigarettes or drinks alcohol is a hypocrite...both of those kill far more users than pot ever has or ever will.

Most all the "bad things" that come from pot come not from pot, but from pot being illegal. Make it legal, the bad things go away.

Fish on...

Todd

Amen !

Yep

Only in America can the argument be made that adding drugs for public use is a good idea. Not only a good idea, but that it is stupid to think that clear thinking is less desirable.

One thing is for sure.......well, almost for sure....... we'll have the data to use for comparison in reasonably short order.

and Todd....cigarettes don't fk up your thinker, and the argument wasn't about users killing themselves......a point no one cares about......collateral damage is the issue at hand.

Sg you argue the issue like an old friend is being threatened. Doper?

Ok, Slappy...how about alcohol?

Care to compare how many more innocents have died due to alcohol consumption compared to pot? How about innocents that were shot with guns?

Should we now ban guns and alcohol?

Hell, if that's your barometer we should absolutely 100% without question...or exceptions...ban all religion immediately.

More innocent people have suffered "collateral damage" from shitheads practicing their religion than all drugs, guns, and bad beef combined.

Fish on...

Todd

alcohol? No, I've never had a problem with alcohol. You?

Great answer, dumshit.

Fish on...

Todd

The pot law is very NW because its more about telling the govt to quit telling people what they can and cannot do than it is about getting high. most of you tourist fukers don't recognize this because your kind did not come here 200 years ago to get away from the rest of the assholes on the east coast making all kinds of rules. All these regressive laws come from you tourists that have moved here in the last 50 years. You fuked up all the fishing and hunting too.

KK never did get that huffing glue thing right......He thought eating paste was the same thing.


Still does.

100% wrong.

+ 100%

But the breadth of things in which he is wrong is certainly impressive.

In reality, the indoor breeding that took place in the PNW in the 70's along with the BC seed distribution and "overgrow the government" movement of the mid to late 90's both had more influence than anything California did or has done.

California does certainly deserve a lot of credit for both the strides it made with medical marijuana and the quality of their outdoor product.

Hank

Why do you insist?

Outstanding!