Rubber legs intruder. Well done.

The ascot forefathers are surely rolling over in their graves.

Knarly intruder bantam. I have been hacking up my salmon squids and playing around with the same kinda ideas. Yes Coley they probably are, but they also did not have the tools to turn or huck such a beast. Spey rods w 600 grain skagit heads = bad ass chicken cannons.

Neon, your post on twitchin' jig colors in part motivated me to start this topic. Being guides on the Situk, you all have spent some time "on" fish there and so I'll give the black a go again next fall. I may not have gone big enough in the past when I tried black in muddy water.

Rob at R&B...

Bantam,

Likin' that Intruder! Bright or dark, the rubber legs should make lots of action.

Coley,

The Intruder is a lure, not a fly, so no worries about the ascot forefathers.

Sg

Aha. What is the difference? Or rather, what are the elements of each and where do you draw the line between them?

It was written.

Funny [Bleeeeep!] Kaiser

So Sg does that mean we are only allowed to use gear rods for the intruder or are Spey rods not considered fly worthy by our Ascot forefathers?

You only worry about the definition of fly fishing if you are a "fly fisherman", which is to say you think yourself different from other fishermen in some way even though you aren't.

Also, there are only two types of fishermen, those that fish with a net for money and those that fish with a line for sport. The rest is just fantasies and egos.

AP

Sorry Salmo. Didn't mean to start an ascot skirmish.

I remain interested in the answer, not facetiously either.

Could not agree with you more Jason. Although after watching a guide and two clients who were mediocre casters flogging the water with nymphs, my brother made a statement that was funny as hell. "Everybody wants to be a fly fisherman, but nobody wants to fly fish". That was the joke the rest of the trip. Just started tying and swinging for steelhead last year. Still keep my gear rods handy. Have not been able to get myself to nymph yet though. I figure if I'm gonna do that, I might as well use a gear rod with a float. Heading up to the OP tomorrow with only my spey in hopes of getting my first steelhead on the swing.

Tight Lines

As am I. Although skirmishes on this sight can occasionally make for a great thread.

ASCOT SKIRMISH!!!!!!!!!!

Meet up behind the cafeteria after school!!!!!!!

Dig up "Bantam's Skunktruder" from last winter if you haven't seen that one already. Five star skirmish!

Am I allowed to bring my Halibut meat stick to the skirmish? Or are there ground rules?

Can you do a SnapT with it?

Fish on...

Todd

With my customized 10 ft shooting head and floating tip I can get the snap, but my D loop keeps collapsing on itself. Might just have to go back to the braid and weighted treble hook system I had on there before.

You might wanna try Rio's new 15,000 grain Skagit compact.

Coley,

First off, I don't know, nor do I care enough to ask around. Reformed bait thugs I've known who became purists use flies tied only of natural materials, except for the steel hook. Silk thread, not nylon or kevlar, no tinsel, just natural fur, hair, feathers, in natural, not dyed colors. Not easy these days to tie a fly with no synthetic materials.

I heard Ed Ward (one of the originators) describe the Intruder as an engineered fly pattern, er lure. And Bantam's rendition can only be a more evolved edition.

AP,

5 stars fer sure!

Metaladdiction,

You can use whatever rod you wish. I know guys who claim to have cast Dick Nite spoons on their Spey rods, but none who have cast a RVRFSHR. The boundaries between fly fishing and conventional gear have been irrevocably erased with the invention of space age plastic rods and plastic fly lines. So just for chuckles I long ago defined fly fishing as limited to rods made from Tonkin cane or greenheart, lines of silk, leaders of drawn gut, and reels made in England. And with the popularity of dirty-azzed nymphing, that pretty much makes everyone a knuckle-dragging bait thug. That shouldn't offend anyone would it?

Sg