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#819597 - 02/01/13 02:47 PM Re: Educational [Re: ]
Todd Offline
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Comparing Houston and Detroit is silly.

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#819599 - 02/01/13 02:51 PM Re: Educational [Re: Todd]
Todd Offline
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That being said...

Oil producing jobs in Houston taking a hit is not a big deal, except to those who lose their jobs, of course. Oil can be found everywhere, and anywhere, and no one down the chain is going to be in trouble if Houston produces less oil.

The American Auto Industry, however, is not that way. You can mostly only get those cars from Detroit (and associated cities).

Those jobs support tens of millions of jobs all over the USA, too...from car dealers to auto parts industries to mechanics.

10,000 jobs lost in Detroit will result in millions of jobs lost all over the USA. Losing every job in the entire city of Houston that deals with the oil industry will not short the country or the world on oil, nor will it cost millions of jobs anywhere.

That's why comparing them is silly...which I suspect you know, but will continue to harp on anyway.

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#819601 - 02/01/13 02:54 PM Re: Educational [Re: ]
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There are a LOT of corporate headquarters located in and around Houston, so there is obviously some added appeal there. If I had to take a wild-ass guess, I'd say that the cost of doing business in Texas is less than that in Michigan, due to Texas STATE policy. I don't think intrusion by the FEDERAL government, or any lack thereof, factored in heavily.

As for why nobody's moving to Detroit, well, cost of doing business aside, it's a $hithole. I'm more sure about this than my speculation regarding Houston's diversification.

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#819603 - 02/01/13 02:59 PM Re: Educational [Re: FleaFlickr02]
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Originally Posted By: FleaFlickr02
As for why nobody's moving to Detroit, well, cost of doing business aside, it's a $hithole.


You are being too kind.
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#819604 - 02/01/13 03:00 PM Re: Educational [Re: ]
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So the high suicide rate in Detroit is because of Obama?

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#819613 - 02/01/13 03:21 PM Re: Educational [Re: FleaFlickr02]
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Originally Posted By: FleaFlickr02

As for why nobody's moving to Detroit, well, cost of doing business aside, it's a $hithole. I'm more sure about this than my speculation regarding Houston's diversification.


I've read you're posts for a year and more, and you are insightful. But you choose to say potato, while choose to say pototo.
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#819619 - 02/01/13 03:37 PM Re: Educational [Re: ]
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Originally Posted By: Hankster
WTF are you talking about?


I assumed the suicide rate in Detroit had something to do with how Detroit is Obama's fault, and Houston's resurgence is because Obama ignored it.

I mean...you wouldn't just change subjects right in the middle of blaming Obama for it, would you?

If you did...don't. If you are blaming the suicide rate on Obama, excellent.

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#819624 - 02/01/13 04:05 PM Re: Educational [Re: ]
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It's more the City of Detroit committing suicide itself.

If it were Obama's fault, wouldn't it be homicide?

I think you guys are so busy blaming Obama for saving Detroit that you've gone ahead and confused yourselves again.

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#819626 - 02/01/13 04:13 PM Re: Educational [Re: Todd]
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There you again Todd, shall the cart drag the horse?

Perhaps you might take a deep breath and contemplate.
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#819627 - 02/01/13 04:16 PM Re: Educational [Re: blackmouth]
Todd Offline
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I'm still trying to contemplate why someone would ever copy/past anything that Mona Charon writes since it is virtually all just as inaccurate and misleading as this article is.

I'm also still trying to contemplate why RWWJ's would try and compare the oil industry in Houston to the auto industry in Detroit.

I'm also still trying to figure out not only why it's Obama's fault, but what the thing is that's his fault this time.

Lastly, I'm still contemplating why Hank always changes topics in the middle of a conversation.

No need to contemplate why RWWJ's not only stick to their guns when their "facts and logic" are shown to be "smoke and mirrors and fallacies", but double down on their fallacies...that is, to turn a phrase, how they roll.

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#819640 - 02/01/13 05:00 PM Re: Educational [Re: Todd]
blackmouth Offline
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Sir, must you always resort to purjoritives?
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#819659 - 02/01/13 06:16 PM Re: Educational [Re: blackmouth]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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I'm sorry but I just can't think of Detroit without thinking of DJ Assault. Rise up, D!!!

You're welcome.


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#819663 - 02/01/13 06:25 PM Re: Educational [Re: ]
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Well Ap, that's the way to do it if you want to hijack a thread. Nicely played.
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#819666 - 02/01/13 06:43 PM Re: Educational [Re: Chuck E]
AP a.k.a. Kaiser D Offline
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Hank, sorry to offend your delicate sensibilities.

You need soap and water,
soap and water,
soap and water,
soap and water,
water, water, water, water,
water, water, water, water,
water, water, water, water.

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#819676 - 02/01/13 07:13 PM Re: Educational [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
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Originally Posted By: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D
I'm sorry but I just can't think of Detroit without thinking of DJ Assault. Rise up, D!!!

You're welcome.



Made it 32 sec. before I thought I was experiencing a pre heart attack......wow.....

Done for now. smile

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#819685 - 02/01/13 07:40 PM Re: Educational [Re: AP a.k.a. Kaiser D]
Illyrian Offline
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Registered: 12/20/09
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applause roflThankyou, made me forget about that pompous
azz's, er I mean Todd's foolishness for a few.

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#819688 - 02/01/13 07:45 PM Re: Educational [Re: Illyrian]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

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Posts: 28170
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
Originally Posted By: Illyrian
applause roflThankyou, made me forget about that pompous
azz's, er I mean Todd's foolishness for a few.


It pleases me to no end that these are the "smart" comments made about me by a guy who's contribution to the political conversation is either pithy, indecipherable, and worthless one liners, or just copy/pastes of right wing fools like the one that started this thread.

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#819694 - 02/01/13 07:55 PM Re: Educational [Re: Todd]
Illyrian Offline
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thank you for the kudos. In a personal comparison I feel like a winner. I do admit to not having a legal degree.

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#819695 - 02/01/13 07:58 PM Re: Educational [Re: Illyrian]
Todd Offline
Dick Nipples

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Posts: 28170
Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
I think it's great that you feel like a winner.

I think everyone should feel that way.

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#819699 - 02/01/13 08:01 PM Re: Educational [Re: Todd]
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So Cruz seemed like a smart cookie with his comparison or analogy only until one thought about it and realizes it's a false - apples and oranges - comparison. Yeah, let's select sample cities or regions that appear to support our argument, and then analyze only the variable or variables that also appear to support our argument, and naturally we'll ignore any sample cities or variables that conflict with our argument. Wow, that takes a real 148 er to figure out. I suppose "cherry picking" is a more appropriate description than apples and oranges, but fruity nonetheless.

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