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#895018 - 05/13/14 06:53 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: Dave Vedder]
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Well it looks like the rubber will meet the road in the next year. Supposedly our govenor is going to propose a carbon tax on emissions that will raise the price of gas .95 to $1.17 a gallon. He wants to be the greenest state in the union. But I am sure all the believers all ready have moved to Seattle proper and use only mass transit to go fish wink Just backing up all the evidence with doing their part as good little citizens should.
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#895021 - 05/13/14 07:12 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: IrishRogue]
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Originally Posted By: IrishRogue
Right!

A second opinion is awesome.

So if you got 1000 "second opinions" and 990 of them (which is probably conservative) said it was a tumor, and you needed to have it removed, what would you do?



Fair enough Irish and good point. In that case, if the evidence is quantifiable and irrefutable, then I would listen. I don't think we are there yet with man-made Global ______. I agree that something is going on, but not necessarily that it’s our fault (or within the realm that we can control through legislation).
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#895023 - 05/13/14 07:17 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: NickD90]
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Every year we have the same exact "debate" on global warming/climate change/climate disruption and every year IR drags out the exact same imperfect analogies for his perfect blowhardiness.
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#895025 - 05/13/14 07:28 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: IrishRogue]
blackmouth Offline
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Originally Posted By: IrishRogue
If your standard is that "the jury is still out" and that it's a "supreme display of hubris" to take action based on the recommendations from the overwhelming majority of the best educated people on the subject????

Well now, just how did you derive that thought from this,

Originally Posted By: Rev. blackmouth

The jury is still out on the magnitude of the issue. We have been wrong so many times, on so many issues. It would be a supreme display of hubris to believe that we are now to be certain on this issue.


As far as treating a brain tumor, my oncologist suggests that I should always accept new science, and hope.

However Baracks, Death panel is about to curtail my Health Care. Evidently I am older than KK.
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#895026 - 05/13/14 07:30 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: Dave Vedder]
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Registered: 03/29/14
Posts: 4235
Originally Posted By: Dave Vedder
IR your are wasting your breath, but of course you knew that I'm sure.

Some of these guys would ignore the 999 cancer specialist and go see the one quack that their particular political party seems to embrace at the moment.

You can take comfort knowing that thorse on the other side include Hank and Nate no matter what name he goes by today. That in itself almost assures that you are right.


come on Dave, first and foremost, im not part of any political party, screw Obama, screw Romney, screw Hillary, Palin, Biden, McCain, screw ALL OF THEM..

the fact is, is that throughout recorded history, there have been multiple periods of glacial melting, and re glaciating, not just once, not just twice, but hundreds of times...

hey, heres an idea, has anyone checked the temperature of the moon the last say, 500 years? has it increased and or decreased? because, the Sun is a gas giant, and weird things happen with them, like massive heat waves and gamma bursts that could raise the temperature of planets near it...

i am a member on a page about Astronomy, and the last solar flares that have been happening, are quite interesting, they have upclose shots of the sun showing the flame plume that spreads out... that intense heat, has to hit somewhere, which it does, and we have proof from in Solar Storms that knock out power grids due to radiation exposure and whatnot...

i choose to look at all aspects of problems, not just 1 side like alot of people choose to do... historical facts, are historical facts and scientific data, you can either accept them, or ignore them, but the fact still remains, that its been going on for millions, even BILLIONS of years...

when the earth first formed, over 4 billion years ago, there were large pools of lava from meteors and asteroids slamming into the earth at extreme velocities, so what happened? why is there ice now? should we restore the planet to what it was when it started?

its in my opinion, the cycle of the earth, we just happen to be on it for the ride...

as far as the political aspect of that, the US Government cant even find a god damn airplane, bigfoot, or Elvis's ghost, so im not listening to a damn thing they have to say... its not like they do anything right in the first place...

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#895034 - 05/13/14 08:10 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: ]
Evo Offline
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Registered: 03/29/14
Posts: 4235
you better watch it spreading rumors about me John, bring over your little hippy piss test kit and ill gladly pee on you for you...

and i actually read quite well if you havent noticed...

and how do you know what education i have? because GUY told you? yeah, hes someone i would trust rofl

that right there is exactly what people do when they are confronted with things they cant explain, they resort to "fvck you, you are an idiot, blah blah blah"... they do it with religion, they do it with climate, they do it with politics...

glad you have found your niche in society bro...

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#895041 - 05/13/14 08:29 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: ]
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ignorance is when you assume you know something, when you dont (what you are doing)

ignorance is also assuming that someone is wrong, and is something they arent, because some little slimy rat told you so...

John, you hang out with hypocrites and thieves, so i really dont care what you have to say...

go have another drink ya lush...

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#895045 - 05/13/14 08:55 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: ]
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Ahh...so precious...a lover's quarrel. {{{ Hugs all around }}} moose
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#895046 - 05/13/14 08:56 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: ]
Evo Offline
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nobody but you can pull of senile, old, arrogant, bitch like you can John, you have that perfected...

pretty soon dipsh!ts like you are going to say that global warming starts every day when the sun rises...

oh yeah, if you didnt notice, we were having a just fine debate, no name calling, just sharing facts and opinions and whatnot, until you had to open that gaping boner holster under your nose...

like i said, go have another drink... you have drunk perfected as well, and you call me a drug addict because i smoke a half a gram of weed a night rofl

GTFOOH with that nonsense...

and stop spreading lies, or i will...

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#895050 - 05/13/14 09:04 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: ]
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Loc: Seattle
Half a gram a night ? That's a half oz a month? Well that answers a bunch of questions. Let me guess on disability and I am paying for it too?
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#895071 - 05/13/14 11:52 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: ]
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Registered: 01/09/14
Posts: 1473
Loc: Sky River(WA) Clearwater(Id)
Originally Posted By: Banned User
What the fuk is your main malfunction ?

Lazy, ignorant, unskilled, lack ambition....or all of the above..


Stand and Deliver BU! F'n poetry...
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#895173 - 05/14/14 06:33 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: Bent Metal]
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Evo (Nate),

What you mean is, it was a good debate - until you piped in. Wherever you go, your baggage follows you. Your baggage = no job, not looking for a job, no intent to ever have a job, no education, no skills, leech off your mother and girlfriend (for whom I do have pity; she must believe you're a fixer-upper), but you do have a working computer, an internet connection, and a knowledge base consisting of Google and Wikipedia. Yet you expect to be taken seriously about anything?

Hint: fix your baggage and everything else will take care of itself.

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#895175 - 05/14/14 06:43 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: Salmo g.]
Evo Offline
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Posts: 4235
i FIX computers Einstein...

i have plenty of education, and plenty of skills, why do you think that my uncle has to spread rumors about me to people like John?

because hes intimidated, and jealous rofl

i could make 5 dollars a week, 500 a week, 500000000 a week, and it still wouldnt matter, YOU will still always think you are better than me, smarter than me, that im an idiot, that i know nothing, call me names, say this, say that, whatever...

dont be intimidated Salmo, im just one of the guys, that likes to BS with the rest of the guys, and until either of you show me a PHD in Climatology, you can keep your BS statements about my education on the subject to yourself...

oh, and no reading books either, because thats the same as reading Google, reading is reading... if you are going to be smart, you must will yourself to all knowledge like God himself...

rofl

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#895183 - 05/14/14 07:22 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: Evo]
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Registered: 01/24/07
Posts: 31892
Loc: Town in the North Bay Area
Wait a minute. This Evo clown is Redhook/Nate?

Pay off your bet, you worthless POS. It's been over a year now.

F'n dipstick.
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#895202 - 05/14/14 09:51 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: Evo]
Salmo g. Offline
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Registered: 03/08/99
Posts: 12535
Originally Posted By: Evo

i could make 5 dollars a week, 500 a week, 500000000 a week, and it still wouldnt matter,


That's not true. How many hours a week do you spend fixing computers RH, Nate, Evo? Show me a paycheck stub, prove that you don't leach off your mother and girlfriend, and my respect for you will skyrocket. Minimum wage would suffice cuz I have zero respect for leeches.

I don't think anybody here, I sure as hell don't, care what your uncle says about you to KK. I doubt KK does either. You've established a reputation here as someone who doesn't work, doesn't want to work - even when offered a car to help you get to work - and wouldn't take a job if offered one, who lives with his mom and lets his student GF, who actually has a job, support him. I didn't invent this. I got it all from your posts.

Show us that you're not a worthless bum and discover what it's like to be respected as a man. It's that simple.

Sg

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#895204 - 05/14/14 09:59 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: Salmo g.]
Evo Offline
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Registered: 03/29/14
Posts: 4235
well then you are a complete buffoon Steve, how can my girlfriend work if she leaves here at 5am every morning and doesnt show up till NOW because she is in class and rides the bus to Seattle every day?

and if noone cared, noone would say SH!T about it, you know what, fvck it, bring it up again, and ill call him myself and John can deal with the mess he started by opening his fat mouth about something he knows nothing about...

and noone offered me a car, so again, your WRONG..

ive also been working plenty doing quite a bit of stuff for people the last few weeks, still gotta fish tho ya know?

and as far as a paycheck stub? rofl

show me your 1099's from the last 10 years..

show me your weekly pay checks from the agency you work for..

tell me when the last time your wife was on the rag...

show me all of your receipts for your cost of living...

or dont, because its none of my business in the first place... you think im going to be upset with what you think of me? well sorry to inform you, but i have plenty of friends that think otherwise, and plenty more i told to fvck off because they dont click with what im trying to do...

again, gotta get ready for fishing, later...

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#895310 - 05/15/14 10:50 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: blackmouth]
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Registered: 07/11/04
Posts: 3076
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NASA reported today that the Great Red Spot on Jupiter is now the smallest ever observed. In the 1800's When it was first measured three Earths could fit in the storm but now it's only the size of one Earth. Scientists think this is due to unknown atmospheric changes.

I'm pretty sure if we take the best and brightest atmospheric scientists, give them several billion dollars, they can figure out how it's due to human beings and why only democrats can fix it.

smile
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#895313 - 05/15/14 11:08 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: BroodBuster]
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Registered: 11/05/04
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Originally Posted By: BroodBuster
I'm pretty sure if we take the best and brightest atmospheric scientists, give them several billion dollars, they can figure out how it's due to human beings and why only democrats can fix it.
smile


We've been constantly fleeced by a far lower grade of rulers, and bureaucrats, and scientist's, than our "best and brightest" that it has become a mockery of intelligence.

However I am sure that if we deliver the cash they will deliver an answer.
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#895314 - 05/15/14 11:17 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: BroodBuster]
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It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.

Registered: 03/07/99
Posts: 15227
Loc: SE Olympia, WA
Originally Posted By: BroodBuster
NASA reported today that the Great Red Spot on Jupiter is now the smallest ever observed. In the 1800's When it was first measured three Earths could fit in the storm but now it's only the size of one Earth. Scientists think this is due to unknown atmospheric changes.

I'm pretty sure if we take the best and brightest atmospheric scientists, give them several billion dollars, they can figure out how it's due to human beings and why only democrats can fix it.

smile


Or we can listen to a Republican discuss how similar the atmosphere of a gas giant like Jupiter is to Earth's............for free.
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#895316 - 05/15/14 11:40 PM Re: Global Warming [Re: Dan S.]
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Originally Posted By: Dan S.
Or we can listen to a Republican discuss how similar the atmosphere of a gas giant like Jupiter is to Earth's............for free.



WARNING! WARNING!

Straw man alert!
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