#907395 - 09/25/14 08:22 PM
Re: Room temp pellicle formation?
[Re: Todd]
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ExtenZe Field Tester
Registered: 11/10/09
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Yeah, I'm around 115F for most of the smoke. Duration is usually around 14 hours +/-. I don't think it would hurt to crank up the heat for the last hour, although I don't typically do it.
I did have a batch that was a little soft...would have benefited from the heat crank up.
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#907396 - 09/25/14 08:27 PM
Re: Room temp pellicle formation?
[Re: eyeFISH]
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Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah
Registered: 08/23/06
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I lol'd when I saw that you posted something about food safety... 
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#907404 - 09/25/14 09:02 PM
Re: Room temp pellicle formation?
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Ornamental Rice Bowl
Registered: 11/24/03
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Perpetually eating "on the edge" does a body good.
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#907406 - 09/25/14 09:07 PM
Re: Room temp pellicle formation?
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Dick Nipples
Registered: 03/08/99
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Loc: Seattle, Washington USA
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Perpetually eating "on the edge" does a body good. +1 Fish on... Todd
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#907412 - 09/25/14 09:26 PM
Re: Room temp pellicle formation?
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River Nutrients
Registered: 03/08/99
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Perpetually eating "on the edge" does a body good. I'll take your word for it. That 14 day old clam performance was one for the record books.
Edited by Eric (09/25/14 09:27 PM)
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#907413 - 09/25/14 09:33 PM
Re: Room temp pellicle formation?
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Ornamental Rice Bowl
Registered: 11/24/03
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Anyone for a bowl of tortilla chips and month-old "kim chee" salsa?
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#907417 - 09/25/14 09:50 PM
Re: Room temp pellicle formation?
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The Original Boat Ho
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Well this thread has sure made the saliva percolate and with a few extra coho to cook up, to the smoker we'd like to go - One issue however
All of these fillets have been skinned*, and de-boned* before vacu-packing and freezing. Has anyone here tried smoking salmon with the skins removed first? I would imagine a few adjustments in brine as well as times for soaking and brining are needed?
thx Md Pickle it!
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#907419 - 09/25/14 10:02 PM
Re: Room temp pellicle formation?
[Re: GutZ]
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This. I should put up the recipe,it's unbelievable. So I have learned to keep it simple when it comes to fish. Sugar salt and water,brined overnight. I rinse and let it dry for at leats 8 hours and smoke in apple chips,and not much,I like a little less smoke . Maybe 2 pans.
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#907422 - 09/25/14 10:16 PM
Re: Room temp pellicle formation?
[Re: Eric]
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Ornamental Rice Bowl
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Overnight wet brine in the fridge, quick rinse in the morning, pat dry w/paper towels, 2 hr air dry in the fridge and then a 4-7 hr hot smoke usually gets me close to this……….. I'll personally vouch for this dude's smoked summer runs... DEE LISH!
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#907427 - 09/25/14 11:09 PM
Re: Room temp pellicle formation?
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Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah
Registered: 08/23/06
Posts: 6215
Loc: zipper
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that looks good
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#907438 - 09/26/14 12:34 AM
Re: Room temp pellicle formation?
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The Tide changed
Registered: 08/31/00
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I've been using half as much salt and a 2 day dry brine to achieve the proper amount of emulsification for the last several years with excellent results..give it a shot on your recipe.. my recipe is on recipe forum.
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#907473 - 09/26/14 12:24 PM
Re: Room temp pellicle formation?
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Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah
Registered: 08/23/06
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#907552 - 09/26/14 07:23 PM
Re: Room temp pellicle formation?
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The Original Boat Ho
Registered: 02/08/00
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Loc: Bellevue
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The Pickle Recipe is too easy. Piper shared some with me a couple summers ago and I have been hooked.
In Quart jars, fill with loosely packed bite size chunks of Coho. Add 5/8 cup salt. Fill with white vinegar. Wait 5+ days.
Rinse . Repack in large mouth pints alternating with slices of onion. (I threw in some jalapenos in recent batch) .
Heat to boiling 2 cups vinegar (I am using cider) 1 cup sugar and 1 tbsp pickling spice (I use more). Throw in some ice to cool. Fill jars. Seal tight. Wait another week. Enjoy.
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#907640 - 09/27/14 06:34 PM
Re: Room temp pellicle formation?
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Returning Adult
Registered: 08/21/13
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Loc: Tri-Cities, WA
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Well this thread has sure made the saliva percolate and with a few extra coho to cook up, to the smoker we'd like to go - One issue however
All of these fillets have been skinned*, and de-boned* before vacu-packing and freezing. Has anyone here tried smoking salmon with the skins removed first? I would imagine a few adjustments in brine as well as times for soaking and brining are needed?
thx Md All my fish are skinless and boneless before going into the brine. It works great. I'll still brine for 2 days. Keep the temperature low at the start too avoid the curd.
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#907655 - 09/27/14 08:36 PM
Re: Room temp pellicle formation?
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The Original Boat Ho
Registered: 02/08/00
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Loc: Bellevue
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Even an old dog can learn new tricks. Maybe. After reading through this and some of the things referenced, I think I have learned a few things. I have always thought the "ugly white curd" was fat coming out of the fish. Although it has never bothered me, nor anyone to whom I have gifted much fish, I think I will try drying my fish a while. I have taken the fish out of the brine. (in since this time yesterday) It's in the fridge til around this time tomorrow, onto the racks and into the garage until Monday AM. Then into my too hot smoker for too long  . Pictures Monday. (but only if it's not butt ugly sawdust smoked looking  )
Edited by GutZ (09/27/14 08:37 PM) Edit Reason: cant typ gud
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#907659 - 09/27/14 08:53 PM
Re: Room temp pellicle formation?
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Diamond Cutter
Registered: 10/27/07
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Loc: Seattle
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That's some of the prettiest smoked fish I have seen in a while. Nice job....I know it tastes awesome. chuck
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#907661 - 09/27/14 09:00 PM
Re: Room temp pellicle formation?
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Dah Rivah Stinkah Pink Mastah
Registered: 08/23/06
Posts: 6215
Loc: zipper
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The white stuff is protein and can still come out after air drying if the smoker gets too hot.
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#907662 - 09/27/14 09:52 PM
Re: Room temp pellicle formation?
[Re: fish4brains]
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Diamond Cutter
Registered: 10/27/07
Posts: 130
Loc: Seattle
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Whats the white stuff in Seagull [Bleeeeep!]? Ha!
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#907664 - 09/27/14 10:14 PM
Re: Room temp pellicle formation?
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I'm Idaho!
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Overnight wet brine in the fridge, quick rinse in the morning, pat dry w/paper towels, 2 hr air dry in the fridge and then a 4-7 hr hot smoke usually gets me close to this……….. I'd pay for that
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