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| #967943 - 11/11/16 11:02 AM  Re: FuckingBrokeIstan
[Re: willametteriveroutlaw] |  
|   ExtenZe Field Tester
 
   Registered:  11/10/09
 Posts: 7961
 Loc:  Vancouver, WA
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I'd be more worried about how much our power costs would rise, as FuckingBrokeIstan would have the vast majority of the dams and power production that Western Oregon/Washington uses.
 LOL They could withhold power for ransom. The metrosexuals would have to pay exorbitant rates to the "Stan".
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| #967945 - 11/11/16 11:12 AM  Re: FuckingBrokeIstan
[Re: Todd] |  
|   My Area code makes me cooler than you
 
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Keep taking those meds buddy!! |  
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| #967947 - 11/11/16 11:13 AM  Re: FuckingBrokeIstan
[Re: Todd] |  
|   River Nutrients
 
 Registered:  11/21/07
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 Loc:  Olema,California,Planet Earth
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The Power is Federal in most cases, not the state's. Grant and Douglas PUD's have local dams, so they could raise their rates. In Oregon at least some of it is owned by utilities; who operate under their own rules.  So, power rates on the westside would probably not budge. |  
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| #967960 - 11/11/16 01:16 PM  Re: FuckingBrokeIstan
[Re: Todd] |  
|   Dick Nipples
 
   Registered:  03/08/99
 Posts: 27840
 Loc:  Seattle, Washington USA
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The federal government owns most of those dams, the counties own a couple.
 Fish on...
 
 Todd
 
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| #967965 - 11/11/16 02:24 PM  Re: FuckingBrokeIstan
[Re: Todd] |  
|   Spawner
 
   Registered:  10/26/02
 Posts: 908
 Loc:  Idaho
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The federal government owns most of those dams, the counties own a couple.
 Fish on...
 
 Todd
Remember that is the same country that supports the Bundys..
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| #967966 - 11/11/16 02:28 PM  Re: FuckingBrokeIstan
[Re: willametteriveroutlaw] |  
|   Dick Nipples
 
   Registered:  03/08/99
 Posts: 27840
 Loc:  Seattle, Washington USA
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The federal government owns most of those dams, the counties own a couple.
 Fish on...
 
 Todd
Remember that is the same country that supports the Bundys..That, unfortunately, is why it would be a gigantic disaster...they would do away with all those "liberal restrictions" and just destroy it all, quickly, and then they'd be... FuckingBrokeIstan ...in short order. I guess they could then add in western Montana so that they could bleed Missoula and Bozeman dry, too, but soon they'll run out of cities to practice their Socialism on and everyone will be broke. They don't need to be whining about those damn liberals on the coast...they need to be sending them monthly thank you letters for all of our tax dollars that pay their way so that they can go print Trump signs and get on Twitter to support the Bundys. Fish on... Todd
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| #967967 - 11/11/16 02:50 PM  Re: FuckingBrokeIstan
[Re: Todd] |  
|   Spawner
 
   Registered:  10/26/02
 Posts: 908
 Loc:  Idaho
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The federal government owns most of those dams, the counties own a couple.
 Fish on...
 
 Todd
Remember that is the same country that supports the Bundys..That, unfortunately, is why it would be a gigantic disaster...they would do away with all those "liberal restrictions" and just destroy it all, quickly, and then they'd be... FuckingBrokeIstan ...in short order. I guess they could then add in western Montana so that they could bleed Missoula and Bozeman dry, too, but soon they'll run out of cities to practice their Socialism on and everyone will be broke. They don't need to be whining about those damn liberals on the coast...they need to be sending them monthly thank you letters for all of our tax dollars that pay their way so that they can go print Trump signs and get on Twitter to support the Bundys. Fish on... Todd Fuk it, let them leave. Heck, I rather be in fuckingBrokeIstan, the Portlandia any day of the week. (except for Tuesdays, because well, the [Bleeeeep!] is going to hit the fan)
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| #967970 - 11/11/16 03:30 PM  Re: FuckingBrokeIstan
[Re: Todd] |  
|   Returning Adult
 
 Registered:  04/28/10
 Posts: 307
 Loc:  Adna
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Geebuzz  Todd   .....   You're not mad are ya ? 
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| #967971 - 11/11/16 04:38 PM  Re: FuckingBrokeIstan
[Re: Black Bart] |  
|   2112
 
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Geebuzz  Todd   .....   You're not mad are ya ? Not mad is my guess. Just exhausted whining and protesting the landslide lost killarie took on election day. All that nightly tantrum throwing is exhausting.
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| #967972 - 11/11/16 04:48 PM  Re: FuckingBrokeIstan
[Re: Todd] |  
|   Dick Nipples
 
   Registered:  03/08/99
 Posts: 27840
 Loc:  Seattle, Washington USA
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Nah, not mad at all...just amused at the rural secessionists that pipe up every four year election cycle about how the "other" side of the state is ruining their lives, when they are, in fact, subsidizing their lives.
 I wish they would form a landlocked dirt poor state...but then who would they have to blame their misfortune on?
 
 Fish on...
 
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| #967973 - 11/11/16 04:53 PM  Re: FuckingBrokeIstan
[Re: Todd] |  
|   River Nutrients
 
   Registered:  03/08/99
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Just to get it right, county PUDs own 5 mainstem Columbia dams - Priest Rapids, Wanapum, Rock Island, Rocky Reach, and Wells.  The PUDs negotiate long-term power contract sales with other utilities like Puget Sound Energy, Seattle City Light, Tacoma Power and others for the best rates they can get.  If eastern WA joined Idaho, nothing would change in that regard.  Those PUDs produce more power than their individual counties could ever hope to use, so they sell all that they don't use.  If they raised their rates during the next contract negotiations, the buyers would just move on to the next best seller.  Free market capitalism works like that, even among government owned utilities.
 The federal government owns and operates Bonneville, Dalles, John Day, McNary, Chief Joseph, Grand Coulee, Ice Harbor, Lower Monumental, Little Goose, and Lower Granite.  BPA markets the power for the feds, partly at market rate, and partly at lower prices to public utilities.
 
 But I think the general idea is great.  The like minded conservative rural citizens could join together and pass laws that the SCOTUS has ruled unconstitutional and have a grand old time.  Until, as Todd mentioned, they run out of urban money to fund their infrastructure.
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| #967984 - 11/11/16 06:42 PM  Re: FuckingBrokeIstan
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|   It all boils down to this - I'm right, everyone else is wrong, and anyone who disputes this is clearly a dumbfuck.
 
   Registered:  03/07/99
 Posts: 16958
 Loc:  SE Olympia, WA
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This secession talk is stupid.  So is the urban vs. rural talk.  
 Just as stupid as the talk about Texas and their dumb asses thinking they should secede.
 
 Nut the fvck up, people.
 
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| #968061 - 11/12/16 04:46 PM  Re: FuckingBrokeIstan
[Re: The Trumpster] |  
|   April Fool
 
   Registered:  06/18/01
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Any tape of Ivanka ? 
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| #968072 - 11/12/16 05:58 PM  Re: FuckingBrokeIstan
[Re: Todd] |  
|   Spawner
 
 Registered:  01/06/07
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Trumpster sounds a little like Fish Prince.? |  
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| #968073 - 11/12/16 06:06 PM  Re: FuckingBrokeIstan
[Re: erikj] |  
|   Dick Nipples
 
   Registered:  03/08/99
 Posts: 27840
 Loc:  Seattle, Washington USA
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Trumpster sounds a little like Fish Prince.?Figure that out all by yourself lol? Fish on... Todd
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| #968090 - 11/12/16 08:27 PM  Re: FuckingBrokeIstan
[Re: Todd] |  
|   Spawner
 
 Registered:  01/06/07
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 Good to hear you're laughing.Thought you might be protesting tonight.
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