This message is to all of you guys who say you are ruining my favorite holes, rivers, etc. Get a life.....Why are you guys even on this site? This site is a "Forum". If you want to be so hush hush about everything........Get off the site and join your few other buddies and e-mail one another and stay off of this excellent site. It's a "Forum". I have yet to hear of any secret rivers posted...The nooch, satsop, queets, hump, sky, salmon, liar, etc, these aren't secrets. The fact of the matter is that you have to have the "know how" when it comes to consistently hooking fish. My 2 cents.