Nativepride, As stated before I'm not going to get sucked up into the number game, I spit out some, you counter with different ones. Which ever #'s you think our correct doesn't seem to matter, both sets point to a fishery running dangerously close to Minimum return goals.

The Green was closed due to forcasted lower than acceptable returns. Just like every other river that has closures. It wasn't because there were too many returning.

And as to steelhead I absolutely agree, Let's see what the rains bring? I don't have that answer anymore than you do. But while we wait I will assume the gauntlet of nets remain in the river?

"The Dept of mis managment can't keep an accurate count". That's just one of many things they don't do well! See, if you talk long enough with someone your bound to find a couple of things to agree on!!

If the Green is meeting it's fishery goals, great! That would be the best Christmas present I could ask for. But there are to many others year after year that fail too....and I guess that's something I have lost focus of on in this thread.

This states fishery program problems do not lie solely on the shoulders of Indian fishing; Never intended to have my statments imply that. Many, many, other factors have led to it's present state as well. (It would take all the storage on this site to explore them all properly)

Also thanks for the info. fava, some e-mail will be sent to these dealers.

Now off to Christmas and a week off searching for sum of them magnificent metalheads.

I'm done; Merry christmas