These low returns seem unprecedented. I think there is something more going on than impacts of the blob, the drought, pinniped predation, PDO, and ocean acidification. When more wild steelhead than hatchery steelhead return at this time of year, I get the feeling that there is some kind of internal collapse going on with Chambers Ck lineage hatchery steelhead. That slightly better numbers of hatchery steelhead have shown up on the Queets and Quinault might be linked to different broodstock lineage. Those are largely Quinault stock with some Chambers Ck, at least back when they started that program.