Oh yeah CM it was the TU guys leading the Springer protection! DW actually stayed in his trailer guarding brood for the effort to help save them. I will have to let him fill in the blanks on what where. Why Region 6 staff under RWS did not require mitigation or recognize Nooch Springers is beyond me. My feeling was just as they refused to recognize Summer Chinook in the Chehalis because they would have to manage harvest for them it was the same for Nooch Springers. Staff just didn't want to be bothered.