Originally Posted By: Mr.Twister
If things hadn't gone so far to the left in the democratic party, I don't think the average centrist American would have voted him in. Instead, toxic social media, the villainization and demonization of each side has caused the great divide.

Half truths and outright lies have made this so much worse. In the past both sides have been paralyzed from doing anything effective in areas of border security, the deteriorating large cities, corporate greed, misapplied socialism, etc. We should have health care that is affordable for all. We should have safe cities, we should have truth in causation of social ills, and not just play the blame game but apply resources to fairly create opportunities. In this state they love to say you can't arrest your way out of homelessness. How is that working out?

I'm sure glad we have such high taxation in this state since we all see how well our money is used to solve problems and provide the average tax payer services. Ha!

Good example is the so called climate tax on fuel (besides the new fuel tax). What a joke. Go ahead and look up how that has been spent so far.

I think this state wants us in a perpetual state of paying for all this and then coming to rely on the government for everything.

Yet we not only vote in taxes that hurt us, we don't demand that the ones we didn't vote for get thrown out. What are the metrics to measure the success of any of it?

Okay, rant over. hahahaha


I think I hear ya' Mr. Twister. The Dems certainly come with a lot of negative baggage. However, voting for Trump signals approval and accpetance of a convicted felon as president, a president who tried to overthrow the 2020 election - a step so far out of bounds that ultra right winger Liz Cheny actively campaigned against him. Trump is a dictator and trying to be a dictator when not actually succeeding at it, all while behaving with the emotional maturity of a 13-year old.

And if the Epstein files are a Democratic hoax, why are Democrats and a few Republicans the only ones clamoring for their full release? If Trump has done nothing wrong, what is he hiding, or trying to hide? The logical thought is that Trump not only raped women of legal age, in his sordid past he also raped underage girls. What other possible reason is there for Trump to try so hard to keep this information secret? Since Trump lies more than he tells the truth, cheats, steals, grifts, and bullies routinely, it's not a stretch to accept that he was a serial rapist as well. The guy has zero ethics. Everything is all about "what's in it for Trump," as he throws his former allies under the bus without hesitation. His continuous rage posting in the middle of the night does not suggest that he is even close to being a stable man.

So by voting for Trump, this is what you did support, or still do support unless you want him impeached and removed from office. It's kinda' that simple.

As for WA state politics, it's a mess. Last election we saw that a moderate Republican could be elected governor, if only he wasn't a Trumper. Being a Trump or MAGA Republican is toxic to WA liberal and moderate and independent voters. So we get consistent Democratic leadership that leans too far left, such that we have the most state tax revenue ever, the largest tax increase ever, and the Dems still can't balance the damn budget. How can this be? The simplest explanation is that every Republican leader I have listened to speaks like they have a Trump stripe running down the middle of their backs, so whatever good they might have to offer gets rejected out of hand because the liberals and moderates and conservatives with half a brain have zero tolerance for Trumpism. It just ain't gonna' happen in this state. And a moderate Republican can't make it past the primaries because of the MAGAtards controlling the party.


Edited by Salmo g. (12/27/25 10:48 AM)