not saying i agree, but lets look at it form the other side i'm not a guide but can see some of where thy are coming from, ok you take a couple of cliants out fish for 5 or 6 hrs and don't catch a thing are you incline to pay full price for no fish,and then when you get home tell the wife no fish she tells her friends there husbands find out word gets out so and so fishes with a guide who can't catch fish what a waste of money, i'll never fish with that guy?