Depends on the Mentallity of the participants. I have only found one comabat zone thus far that I simply cannot fish, the Feather River Afterbay in CA. The upside down spinning reels, blatant snagging and dragging fish backwards through the water while hooting and hollaring is just too much, the ignorant conversations that you must endure . It has got to be the worst white trash mecca on this coast. If you want comedy this is the ultimate experience, as sad as it may be!