Right you are, dogsalmon. Like I said, only six of my summer runs came from a "meat hole" this year. I refuse to post on this board where I got the rest of them, and the reason for that is that I don't want this place to turn into another "meat hole". I only fish the "meat holes" when I have to. Let there be no misunderstanding about it, I'd much rather have a stretch of river all to myself, but if I do decide to fish in a "Combat" zone it doesn't necessarily make me a less competent fisherman..... That's all.