I am with you Old Man.I wear hip boots and wool pants durring the winter!The hikes I do,you get to hot in anything else!during the summer I wear a pair of carharts cut off right below the knee pading and my hiking boots.My wife loves when I wear thenm around town!Everybody that goes with in the summer always insist on wearing there neos and end up with borderline heat exaustion and wetter on the inside than I got all day.