Salmon g

I appreciate your understanding as well as your point of view but you look at things from the inside of the administrative process looking out, while myself and WT have to look from the outside looking in. One cannot walk in to a bargaining process asking for exactly what you want. Chances are by the time you are done you will leave with less than what you hoped for. If you ask for what you want as well as what you feel you can negotiate away you will likely do better. An example would be if I went to a hatchery and told the personnel sheepishly that I would like them to change their practices to help wild fish. I would likely not get what I asked for. However, if I filed in court that current practices at this hatchery were in violation of the ESA and that this and any other hatchery that continues to do this should be shut down, chances are these same hatchery employees would say “you know we could just change our practices”. :p
Politics and science do not work in the same way, stop pretending there is a moral right and wrong embedded in politics.

The last I heard WDFW had to file under 4d rules how they were going to mitigate the negative affects of hatchery planting on these ESA listed fish, and that they had failed to do that in violation of the ESA. Did something change?