We had great discussions last time out. Hanging out all the time with people who think exactly the same is boring. Far better to hang out with intelligent people who force oneself to think.

Let me know what days you have off. Jessie and I are heading down to Oregon on Sunday. I'm staying in Olympia for a big party Saturday night, with lots of drunk nurses, and EMT girls with loose morals. It took some convincing to get me to stay. Maybe Saturday we can hit the water from 7am till 2pm. Call me or send me an IM.

Vince


And I think this thread is worn out. With only one other observation to make. The incident in Mahmoudiya struck me as having nothing to do with war, and everything to do with someone truly evil, seizing an opportunity. The accused was discharged with a mental illness, antisocial personality disorder. It's what used to be referred to as being a sociopath, or psychopath.

I had the misfortune a few years ago of having to spend 80 hours with an 18 y/o with the same diagnosis. Very charming kid. But something very cold and distressful having to be anywhere near him. He and two friends took a 16 y/o boy out to the woods, raped him, beat him, and shot him in the stomach. And while he was still alive set him on fire. Afterwards they all got drunk while he burned. He was at our psychiatric hosp for an independant secondary evaluation prior to sentencing. He got some leeway due to the fact he was a very innocent and tender 17 years old when he committed his crimes.

Yes, a very charming kid.