aunty i am trying to find some common ground here and you continue on with stuff like mr. "crappy" I am sorry to inform you but you are an environmentalist if you have the views you say you do. why is that a bad thing? . i am from a NAVY familly as well. My mom grew up on the NAVY base in Morrocco. My cousin is a captain of a nuclear submarine in the gulf right now. My father faught in vietnam in the marine corps. and came home not the same. my great grandpa spent many years in a japonese concentration camp and pulled out all the gold from his teeth to trade to his captors for food. my grandpa was a NAVY man for his entire career and my other grandpa a merchant marine captain(capt. edwin Nystrom) who was torpedoed off the coast from La push. You have not made any sacrifices that myself and my familly have not made. You have never donated hundreds of hours of your time to training police and then years later read about dead former students and wondered if you could have taught them anything different that would have saved them. I bet you are a tough ole broad as you say and I bet you would remind me alot of my grandma who smacked me ooh so hard at my cousins graduation ceramony at the Annapolis naval academy when I refused to stand for the president when they play that -here comes the president song- that was the first pres bush. and my views never changed. but still my grandma smacking me in the head is one of my favorite memmories. Actually Ill tell ya a story that was a really cool thing bush did that day. the graduating class fraduates in order of top of the class to bottom. so that the last person to get called is the bottom of the class. when that kid came up to shake HW bush's hand and get his diploma. george took off his wrist watch and gave it to him. I was later told that it was inscribed. I thought that was so cool. ....almost as cool as my tough ole broad of a grandma smacking me in the head and saying "i dont give a **** what you think you belive, you will allways stand for your president"
I will allway stand for my president when he enters the stadium. but I just dont stand in agreement with him

anty- i am glad to hear you are a moderate. so is my father. i am not.,.,. so be it. I believe that the only thing for the middle of the road is yellow lines and dead armadillos. In other words
dont offend the full bloods
dont offend the whites
stand in the middle of the road
like a doe in headlights
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