hard to beat a cut plug straight off the downrigger, nothing but line between you and the fish. <img border="0" alt="[Goldfish]" title="" src="graemlins/goldfish.gif" />
Off edmonds and muck I usually start about 20 to 40 ft and search from there. If you get alot of sun they can go deep, but the top 50 feet or so is a great place to start.
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bawddawg, no biscuit!