Rob...your points on hatcheries in terms of our manipulation of things is well taken. Unfortunately we have caused many conditions that contribute to the fix we are in now and the hatchery system is one of them. Hatcheries are not the only culprit, however. You shouldn't take your premise that all hatcheries should be shut down and then apply that premise to every argument. If we hadn't make so many mistakes in the past with fisheries management and if we had controlled growth better in the past we may not have needed hatcheries in the first place. We created hatcheries, in part, as mitigation for the damage we had done to the fisheries. Mitigation for creating an artificially large population of seals and sea lions may require further mitigation in the form of thinning the herds. We can't go back to the way things were 100 years ago so we must continue to manipulate our environment I suppose to do the best we can.