Salmo

I took your advice and I have been reading up on some of those FTC
meetings that are posted on Tacoma's web sit. . . boy did we ever get
screwed by you guys!

http://www.ci.tacoma.wa.us/Power/parks/FisheriesTechnicalCommittee/Default.htm

I find these quotes from this Fishery Technical Meeting very intresting!

http://www.ci.tacoma.wa.us/Power/parks/FisheriesTechnicalCommittee/meeting_may15_02.htm

Quote:
"Bill said he represents a large constituency of which some
communicate directly with him and others who do not communicate. He
feels a Public Involvement Plan (PIP) needs to be used to get the right
information to the public. His constituents look to use the plan to
maximize 'their opportunity' to provide comments and 'shape processes'.
The FTC needs to spend some time on how the plan is developed"
Salmo, I don't know who this "Bill" guy is, but I can tell you, he sure
doesn't represent me, or any of the guys that I know who fish the
Cowlitz. Kind of sounds like he and his special interest group knows
what best for the Cowlitz, according to own statement.

But when I read down a little bit further on, it all became pretty
crystal clear to me!

Mr. "Bill" then says
Quote:
Bill said that he and Craig are trying to create a win-win
situation and try to prevent getting “beat up” as the license is
implemented. Currently the PIP will not adequately supply a doorway of
input from concerned parties.
What was MR. Bill afraid of? If he knew he hadn't put the screws to his
fellow fishermen in the settlement why would he be worried?

Then I read this
Quote:
Steve said that although the PIP will provide a mechanism for
public comment, the framework of the license is complete. The PIP may
have a more important role in educating the public as an outreach
element. 'It would not be used by the public to sway the settlement
agreement or license priorities', but to say “…we understand your
concerns and here is a way you can be involved.
These minutes said that this Steve guy represents NMFS… Is this you
Salmo? If it is, its kind of like calling the kettle black if it is you.

Like I have stated earlier, "Agreements are made but mean nothing as the
next so called agreement supercedes the previous. The actual work of
educating ourselves about our recourses is being done, but it's just
window dressing. As the actual policy is predetermined by a few and the
rest is show! The State does what it wants with NO opposition, aside
from the odd email written by someone here."
Do you think that everyone is stuck thinking the same way that you state
and federal boys do? You all are quite good at talking out of the sides
of your mouths while you try to keep those straight faces when you're
doing it. I know, your asking yourself, "how can he say that to me! It
so simple that it almost doesn't need to be pointed out, but since were
there, I will show you!

You just stated this to us
Quote:
This is a public review draft of the Cowlitz fishery and
hatchery management plan. You are part of the public. How many of you
are even going to read it, let alone send your comments to WDFW and
Tacoma? Just for fun, I’ll check and see how many comments they get, and
I’ll report back here on the results at a later date.
As I read though the FTC minutes my eyes locked on to what this "Steve"
fellow from NMFS said about 7 months ago during the FTC meeting. He was
talking about how the public could make a difference by submitting there
comments. I'll let the members figure out what it means (I am pretty
sure now that this Steve guy from NMFS must be you) said
Quote:
Steve said that although the PIP will provide a mechanism for
public comment, the framework of the license is complete. The PIP may
have a more important role in educating the public as an outreach
element. It would not be used by the public to sway the settlement
agreement or license priorities, but to say “…we understand your
concerns and here is a way you can be involved.
It's my understanding by reading those FTC minutes that this new FHMP
was a direct "product of the FTC" and it is also part of your so called
PIP. It also looks like you may have played large part in making it if
you are "steve" .

We Salmo, I hope that you can sallow your own words. . . our did I just
read the wrong FTC minutes? Maybe I already know what your answer will
be.

PS,
I see that "Mr. Bill" has also now left the FTC...I wonder why?

Maybe he left dodge before the big showdown occurs.


Hairlip