Salmo
I almost feel bad about Hairlip beating up on you, but you can't say that you didn't know that it wasn't going to happen sooner or later. I went back and reread those FTC minutes and HLP was right on. He did miss a few issues because he must not be as informed as I was, so I will address some of the items that he apparently doesn't know about or understand.
We need to set the "record" straight on a few issues here! First you said;
CFM would attend FTC meetings if allowed, but as a practical matter, not all of the public can attend such meetings, and it would be an impossible way to get business done.
Gee, the last time I checked the "official" Cowlitz River relicensing distribution list and the Resources Planning Group (RPG) I was still an official member of the FTC. Did I miss something here or were you just referring to "the new self created FTC"? You were right though about "if allowed", because the ONLY FTC meeting that I wasn't allowed to attend was one of the most important meetings that the FTC ever had held! It was the one that you elite FTC "agency folks" secretly held concerning fish ladders and passage over the dams….does that one "ring a bell" to you Salmo? Remember what I told you about how I felt about you guys for doing that?
HLP hit that on the head. I know, it was just the good old "technical boys" that were doing what they knew was best for the fish and the public….right? How many donuts did we miss that day?
As you know that was, and still is CPR-Fish's number one priority (fish passage), and Tacoma, and the state agencies made it a point not to inform all the "official members of the FTC" of that meeting. And you wonder why we can not "trust" our agencies! Maybe we didn't have the expertise that you guys may of have had on fish passage, but that does that give you, Tacoma, or the state and federal agencies the right to eliminate other FTC members from being allowed to sit in and hear what hell was being said?
And now "you think" that the "public" can still be "informed" and participate….was joke! This public impute process is nothing more then a fricken JOKE to cover up the screw ups that were made in the Settlement Agreement… and you know it!
You say;
The Yakima and Cowlitz Indian Tribes also participated
That's another fricken joke too! For the first two years, we all participated intensely in relicensing process . . . doing all the "ground work" for the Settlement. The Cowlitz Tribe was there at every RPG meeting for the first two years, but Never once did the Yakima Indian Tribe attend one single meeting nor did they make any comment until the Cowlitz Tribe started demanding fish ladders over the dams. You know that "Tacoma Power" then arranged a special private meeting with the Yakima Tribes, and asked them to come aboard and get involved in "settlement" process two years after it was already into full swing! Tacoma knew that they could "cut a deal" with the Yakima tribes, and offset the Cowlitz Tribes interests, because they had not yet "officially" been recognized as a Federal Tribe. Neither Tacoma, or your agency had to deal the Cowlitz Tribe on a nation to nation basis at that time, so you guys went with the only "tribe" that would suck up to signing the stupid "Agreement"! Another joke that the public never knew about!
I could go on and on about more stuff then you would want to answer, so I will end this with one final question for you Salmo! The Cowlitz River Fisheries and Hatchery Management Plan (FHMP) is a huge document to go through and make comments to. The average Joe would not understand how you guys have jerked the Cowlitz fishery around to justify your actions in the Settlement Agreement.
Most guys, like me do not have great professional typing skills when it comes to typing, and it will take a ton of time to go through the FHMP and reference your comments to the pacific issues.
Every stinking one of you that signed the "Agreement" were furnished with an electronic copy to work with because it made it easy and simple for you to make your comments on the drafts. You would think that you and all the other state and federal agencies would extend that same courtesy to the people who they work for and pay there salaries. Instead you jokers have made a joint decision to only release a PDF version so that the public will have to struggle to make there written comments to the draft HFMP. You guys should be ashamed of yourselves for agreeing to do that.
I called Pat McCarty from Tacoma yesterday and told him that it would really help the public if they would release an electronic version so that the public could have the same opportunity to write their comments to 175 page document that each one of you did.
His reply to my request was "We have ALL AGREEDED that we would not release any electronic copys of the HFMP to the public, and if they want to make copies of the document and write their comments on the document, then they can do that".
What is wrong with you agency people? So were supposed to print out a 175 page document or spend tons on copy fees and PAPER (more dead trees) when we could be doing it all electronically over email! What a bunch hypocrites! and you tell us that you want our comments….right, but you won't make it easy for Joe Blow to do it!
It's time to walk the talk Salmo! Show us that your agency really does care and truly wants our comments and make the electronic version available to the public now. If not, you're all a big bunch of hypocrites!! Prove me know Salmo, I will be the first to say that your agencies really does care about our comments.
Prove us wrong Salmo, and show that your better then Tacoma Power, and release that electronic version of the HFMP for us to comment on now
It' show time!!
Cowlitzfisherman
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