How about the Carbon - What a Jack A$$ fest. I was up there a couple of years ago. It was a couple hundred yards to the river and it was just littered with trash. Saw a couple of guys walking out with some "smokers". Yikes. Get to the river and it is lined with jokers snagging kings with eyes missing and bright red silvers. Took one look at that and pulled a u-turn. My fishing opportunities are to few and far between to put up with that crap.

Steve