Originally Posted By: AuntyM
Any Washington river unless specified otherwise. ;\)

Some of the hot issues that used to be of concern, like MSY and escapement numbers have fallen by the wayside I guess.

Now WDFW is managing our fisheries just fine as long as there is plenty of C&R opportunities?


Escapement numbers are the heart of saying whether a run healthy or not. There clearly is some argument over what are reasonable escapement number, look at the Queets and the Quinault tribe versus WDFW, but either way, they are essential numbers. I'm assuming you bringing this up must be a part of history between you and Todd, so I'll just leave it at that.

As for MSY, as far as I know that is a system that has been abandoned for steelhead, except what I believe the Quinault tribes are doing. The state still uses it as a model for salmon (Kurt if you can correct me), but different models are being used for steelhead.

As for that last comment on C&R opportunities, can we just avoid the digs for now? There are precious limited fishable rivers at this point, and sour grapes from both sides aren't helping anything.