Excellent video Irie. Spot on.


Blue Jay, saying you don't support everything Bush has done, does not change the fact you support all the materially important policies the President has pursued.


 Originally Posted By: blue water pro

But anyway, it doesn't matter what people said, it didn't matter what anyone thought. The UN didn't matter. Bush was going no matter what. Understand our constitution, understand commander in chief. Maybe he wanted 1 up on his Daddy, maybe he was finishing Daddy's regrets, maybe his Mom didn't let him play with army men enough. Who knows. But he was going and that is that.




I agree that Bush had made up his mind about going in, but in order for him to execute his planned invasion he needed the support of the American public. Mouthpieces like Blue Jay helped turn the war from a potential nightmare, into a real one. Don't underestimate the power of simple internet chatter. That same chatter and gossip is repeated at home, at work, and at the bar.

A million guys spouting the same bull that BJ spouts makes an impact, especially when no one challenges the lies. A million whispers is the sound of thunder. And now because not enough people spoke out before the war, we live in a shitstorm.

The term 'facist' is overused, however with regard to the neocons who worship Bush, much as I believe BJ secretly does, it probably is an accurate description.

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Fascism is an authoritarian political ideology (generally tied to a mass movement) that considers individual and other societal interests subordinate to the interests of the state. Fascists seek to forge a type of national unity, usually based on (but not limited to) ethnic, cultural, racial, religious attributes. Various scholars attribute different characteristics to fascism, but the following elements are usually seen as its integral parts: nationalism, statism, militarism, totalitarianism, anti-communism, corporatism, populism, collectivism, and opposition to political and economic liberalism.


Taken from Wikipedia, following citations:

1 ^ Eatwell, Roger. 1996. Fascism: A History. New York: Allen Lane.
2 ^ Griffin, Roger. 1991. The Nature of Fascism. New York: St. Martin’s Press. On "populism, see p. 26: "Fascism is a genus of political ideology whose mythic core in its various permutations is a palingenetic form of populist ultra-nationalism".
3 ^ Nolte, Ernst The Three Faces Of Fascism: Action Française, Italian Fascism National Socialism, translated from the German by Leila Vennewitz, London: Weidenfeld and Nicolson, 1965.
4 ^ Paxton, Robert O. 2004. The Anatomy of Fascism. New York: Alfred A. Knopf, ISBN 1-4000-4094-9
5 ^ Payne, Stanley G. 1995. A History of Fascism, 1914-45. Madison, Wisc.: University of Wisconsin Press ISBN 0-299-14874-2

 Originally Posted By: blue water pro
which btw posting swastikas might offend some Jews that visit the board


Sounds like right wing political correctness to me. Considering that the context the picture was posted was to show opposition to militarism, populism, and blind nationalism. If I was Jewish I'd be more worried about people who supported a Nation-State using its resources to pursue wars of aggression.