I don't think I ever stated I had any mis-lke for Todd or anyone else on this board. So I guess the question would be then if we are going to specifically use quotes, What would be the limiting factor in other fisheries basin by basin? Bet ya most would say including Todd that the limiting ffactor is habitat.

You talk about the OP. Well would it not be an improved fishery region wide if you could get rid of the nets from the Hoh, Bogacial, Sol Duc, ect or is it simply not the problem and its all habitat? I have fished over there with various Guides who are friends and let me tell you nothing is more of a let down than to be fishing the Hoh and have to row around the gillnets!

Overharvest is the limiting factor everywhere in Washington, Oregon and Idaho........not habitat.

I have seen various habitat improvement areas on several rivers including the Green, Cedar, Skykomish as well as others and the escapement numbers don't seem to improve.

I find it very interesting that every river needs a "number" set by biologists for escapement and that systems can't support anymore than that number. Who managed these river 100 years ago? Bottom line is like everything else I feel its just about the money, spending it here and not spending it there.

Just my .02 cents