Jerry,

You are not going to get rid of the tribes. Not gonna happen. Even discussing it is taking time away from discussing solutions that benefit the fish. I have to think logging has caused some problems on the OP wouldn't you?

Puget Sound Steelhead have fallen on hard times the last 10 years with little or no harvest. Yet you claim harvest is there limiting factor. I don't get it.

Are you a biologist? didn't think so, why do most biologist claim lack of habitat as the limiting factor.

Does your guide service practice catch and release? If you don't than by your own admission your part of those that are overharvesting.