"I just want to see fish healthy and healthy fishing populations for the future."

As do we all, or we wouldn't be here having this conversation at all...but if you want to do more than just see it, but want to participate in making it happen, then educate yourself on what is limiting the productivity of our fish runs, educate yourself on how to effectively counter those limits, and put your emphasis there.

There are damn few places where overharvest is the limiting factor on our fish runs, and man of those places are being overharvested by tribal fishing that is federally protected. There are no fisheries targeting "Gary Loomis' fish", no matter how many times he says it. Salmon and steelhead are NOT returning at better numbers in the Columbia River since the dams were put in, no matter how many times Gary says that, either.

Like I said, the resources are out there, and they are free...books, reports, online or in hard print, and in the actual experts that are on these BB's, guys like Salmo g. and Smalma who have worked in those fields for decades, not just during the past eight months as $25 Experts.

Overharvest is only a problem where we are overharvesting...that may sound pretty damn obvious, but clearly it's not because there is a large contingent of people who seem to think that everywhere someone other than sportsfishers are harvesting fish, they are overharvesting.

Allocation is most emphatically not the same as conservation...as a matter of fact, they are exactly the opposite.

Conservation is making the pie bigger, allocation is dividing the pie up and eating it.

Fish on...

Todd