Originally Posted By: Irie
Originally Posted By: Lead Bouncer
Originally Posted By: Irie
Good for him. I hope he wins so dumb crackers piss and moan for 8 years while we regain some respect in the eyes of the world.


Are you one of those hate america appologists? During the Reagan years, he was booed by the Europeans over the missles and his stand on the Soviets. And who benefited the most when the wall came down? Europe. Reagan told Europe to reject, letting the Russians control a pipeline and later on, they let the Russians become the defacto supplier on oil and NG. Now, Russia is in control of the energy and they are throwing a fit, over a competing pipeline. Again Reagan was right.


Irie, people like you, did not want the colonies to declare their independence from England. You would rather surrender to our enemies, so they would like us. Pussy.

Oh shoot, sorry Irie, I just realized you were stiring the pot again.


Actually, Conservatives, by definition didn't want to revolt against the throne. Most of them had to flee back to England because their home were burned by drunken mobs. The Revolutionaries were known as "Liberal Terrorists." I should know because my ancestor Jacob Hare of Pennsylvania, had his ears cut off by Revolutionaries for being a patriotic crown subject.

And as war as Reagan being "right"...now that the COLD war's over...There's REAL wars popping up all over and governnments toppling, aren't there? The worlds been destabilized by US, and now we aren't even the #1 factory producer thanks to Conservative moving jobs over seas in order to make a bigger buck and fu*k hard working Americans out of the family wage jobs that they had to form Unions and take up arms to fight for 100 years ago. I guess you just assume that "another day, another dollar" is just a saying and that the weekend is and always has been. Unions dont hire illegals, Businessmen do. Liberals dont close American factories to reopen them in the 3rd world, Businessmen do. What party does business support? The Republican Party.
Oh wait Im just saying that because Im a baby-killing Pinko.
Turn off the TV, Jerk-off. It s making you sound like an A$$hole.




I cant testify to the meaning of the word conservative or liberal more than 200 years ago. I suspect it has changed over the years. Much like the definition of a life, marriage, man or woman. Im sure it was a progressive that came up with the term transgender.

I really like your analysis of the Reagan years. It sounds like you wanted us to join the bear club and wait for Stalin or Putin or someone to herd us off to the ditch. Most people would rather have the freedom that comes with your own democracy. Not much freedom in Communist China or Cuba or Russia. Weve actually had states break off form each other to form new states. Long before Reagan. Much of the nation belonged to other countries. Or would you rather have Russia still owning Alaska. Its not the TV its the channel.

I have a union card and todays unions dont represent members like they use to. Theyve sold out for their own dollar, got involved with the mob and their elections are more nasty than a presidential race. They played a role in getting better working conditions, but most federal and state laws cover most people. The unions are behind every minimum wage fight, because union wages use MW as the baseline. But, older members work all the overtime and new members make less and are put on casual status for six month or more. All the icing goes to the senior members. Ive also been on the receiving end of the teamsters in a non union shop who didnt want to join. We were treated by pickets at every stop and made to go around back to cost the company time and money. Thats not a brotherhood. Thats a mob style dues eating machine, that wont actually fight for the workers jobs. They cant even prove their worth to a bunch of truck drivers. I went to walmart for eye glasses and they told me the union wont reimburse me. So much for freedom.

You are completely wrong about business and republicans. Business donates to both parties. Warren Buffets stock is over 100,000 dollars per share and it doesnt pay dividends. He will leave his family nothing. He donate billions to the gates foundation to avoid death taxes. His income is take as capital gains at the lower rate than his secretary and so he says tax him more. Right...... Democrats want to raise taxes on dividends and that means everyone who wants to retire. So tell me, if two men have the same rights, how come one is paying the other thru a govt pimp? Would you give up your A grade and part of your term paper to help out the lazy drug tweaker in the class? Not me. But the lazy drug tweaker will vote for the democrat to take the money i earned to give it to him.

I even know a democrat that never offered his employees health care and when things got tough, he paid everyone under the table. I lost about 2 dollars an hour after declaring the income. No way was I going to look over my shoulder for seven years. One fall, they all fall.

If american business hires illegal aliens, its because they told congress to open the gate and let them in. The same democrat employer also hired illegal aliens. Its not the democrats who want the border closed. If you had actually run a business, like I have, you would begin to see the cost of labor and govt (Gary lock calls is the partner) I call it the brother inlaw that never moves out. Its not just the united states that has a shifting of labor force. Not many japanese cars are made in Japan anymore. Unions are not entitled to anything. They bargain. If they are not competitive, dont expect employers to just keep taking punches in the face. Ever complain to John Kerry about where Heinz catsup is made? Business move out, when its no longer competitive to remain in the states. Some jobs, such as steelhead jigs are mostly made overseas, because they cant find enough people here to do the work. But thats your fault because you wont pay 10.00 per jig. That would require a union member not on sick leave, at lunch, or out campaigning and driving homeless people to the voting booth.

Since american business cant support enough union members, they just took over the state and federal govt. Its much easier to steal your dues and support the union candidate. Imagine that teamster dues went to elect Reagan.