No I'm not Tim, but he is a fishing friend of mine. I'm not in the boat selling business, but I do know some of the folks that you call the "Salmon Mafia". I am just "collateral damage" in your war against the mafia, as are many others that only fish the bay. Your responses to my post illustrate the very wedge to which I refered. If you notice my post count, I'm not one to enter into debate online, I just wanted you all to hear that there are other opinions out there and ask folks to think about where the real problem lies.