You know I don't really fish GH or the Chehalis that much and only check this thread every once and a while….but I do feel that some of you are completely missing yelloweye’s (YE) message here. I agree with him…regardless of how you feel about preseason forecasts (as when you refer to paper fish I assume that’s what you are talking about), someone will take those fish in a fishery. I heard Rep. Blake wanted a meeting called over the fishery schedule….that should tell you already that someone is eyeing those “paper fish”. And if the non-treaty side doesn’t take them…..then YE is completely right, the tribe will take them. I don’t think YE (correct me YE if I’m wrong or I'm putting words in your mouth) is advocating for fishing into escapement here….if everybody is so adamant about how many fish should make it back to the gravel THEN CHANGE THE ESCAPEMENT GOAL. That’s a different issue, as otherwise the tribes &/or the nonindian commercials will take the harvestable surplus….I think it’s way too naïve to think by self limiting the sport fishery the other groups are going to let those 500 fish make it to the gravel. Really all you are doing is handing those fish over to another harvest group. If you can’t see that….well then I suppose you folks are the same ones who thought the mark selective fisheries in the ocean would be a slam dunk with the tribes too….