How about Doc, Salmo, and Smalma are all right, within their perspective.

The fishery is managed to a number of dead wild springers, and they will all be dead. Selective fishing will be able to kill more hatchery fish for the same impact in gillnets. And those fish will come from either from the surplus at the hatchery or the sporties.

At the same time, gillnets kill a lot of fish that are not recorded, or maybe even known. Net drop out, delayed mortality, seal food, and so on. From a management perspective, these fish never show up in data sets. Selective gear will probably kill fewer wild fish, but this will not be quantified by managers, so it won't be accounted for. But, I think it will be there.