Fine don't believe me LOL. I swear it was an easy 20. I saw johns 15 and this was much bigger. I had no chance landing him unless he came to me. The dorsal fin was an easy 5 inches tall. It was a fatty, right in the choppers too. Like i said earlier, i'd hate to hook a big fish in that hole because of the fast water infront of your feet. I'm pretty sure me and John will be there tomorrow if not then Kanaskat if ya wanna join us or meet us there. Call me if you wanna meet up. And H.....the hatchery is on the north side or oposite the park side and you can access either side easily. I think the upper holes of Kanaskat will be on fire about now.