thanks for that kingfisher! I put 13 at the end of the name when I was 13 but a few months and a birthday turned me 14 so disregard the last 2 digits wink
I was looking to hunt not around as much altough there are alot of woods around here so maybe... but my uncle lives in Mt. Vernon and thers hunreds of acres of woods back there, after to talking to a couple people they said a good all around gun would be a .270 so im looking into that right now what is your opinion on a gun like that? thanks for all the help!

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