Jermz - you seem like a reasonable dude, but I am calling BS on the "tough" times for Boeing workers. Boeing union workers have lived high on the hog for decades. You get what you ask for in life and you get what you elect with your Union reps. Votes have consequences. I worked GM in Detroit for years and I know this. What the Machinists do is NOT special. This Union is NOT a unique and special snowflake. It does not take any special talent, education or commitment to work that job, yet many make 6 figure plus. It's glorified riveting and you want even more? Alabama and South Carolina love you for that.

For all of the Union workers out there, I have only ever asked one thing. Please go work a corporate, non-union job and report back to me with your findings and I 100% guarantee that you'll sign that contract right quick. This is me being and playing "nice" on the Darkside. I'll refrain from sharing my real feelings with spoiled Americans. I've found that the Chinese are MUCH more receptive to this conversation. Huh!