Hey Bottom, You didnt' need to take the namesake Freshwater Bay so literally as to pee in your pants. And your post swings from seeming discust with the peeing subject to advocating people just pee in their pants as you do. Friends shouldn't let friends drink and post messages! You were lucky this time Bottom. Don't stretch your luck. You could hurt someone. ~~ As for peeing in the river, most good rivers with a good run of fish are going to have a number of boaters spread out on it with peeing in the river going on all day. Animals pee in the river also. While I'm sure this doesn't help the bite any, it couldn't be too much of a negative factor or there wouldn't be a lot of fish caught on crowded rivers. And there is often a lot of fish caught on crowded rivers. The guys in boats don't save their day's piss in jars! Do they? ..shtick